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[*] posted on 1-9-2019 at 16:31


Quote: Originally posted by artemov  
So an air fryer would be more effective than a conventional oven?

Put the sieves in a shallow dish and let the hot air swirl around them.

https://www.thekitchn.com/how-do-air-fryers-work-265185


That would just swirl damp air (air + the water vapor from the sieves) round them.You need a flow of fresh relatively dry air to get to the lowest levels of water in the sieves. I believe those fryers do have vents but not flowing air as that would cool them.




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[*] posted on 1-9-2019 at 16:44


Quote: Originally posted by wg48temp9  
Quote: Originally posted by artemov  
So an air fryer would be more effective than a conventional oven?

Put the sieves in a shallow dish and let the hot air swirl around them.

https://www.thekitchn.com/how-do-air-fryers-work-265185


That would just swirl damp air (air + the water vapor from the sieves) round them.You need a flow of fresh relatively dry air to get to the lowest levels of water in the sieves. I believe those fryers do have vents but not flowing air as that would cool them.


Would stopping and opening the door for an air exchange every half an hour or so helps, as in the case for conventional oven?

As for conventional oven, mine has a small fan built-in as well, not sure if it's drawing air in or out or just recycling the air inside.
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[*] posted on 1-9-2019 at 19:32


Quote: Originally posted by wg48temp9  
The simplest and effective method would be to flush the sieves with heated air at 200C.


Dried air. For some hours to constant weight. This is how alumina is dried...or at 400C on the stovetop with stirring for the same time; 200C costs less. It is said 3A sieves should not be heated above 260.

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[*] posted on 2-9-2019 at 02:11


Quote: Originally posted by artemov  


Would stopping and opening the door for an air exchange every half an hour or so helps, as in the case for conventional oven?


Yes i think that would help significantly.





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[*] posted on 2-10-2019 at 16:59


Quote: Originally posted by Magpie  
Quote: Originally posted by Pumukli  
Isn't it dangerous to put a few litres of wet sieves into a regular oven at high heat? I mean explosion hazard.

The op used them to dry alcohol(s), so they not only contain water but some alcohol as well.

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I was regenerating 3A mole sieves used to dry ethanol. I placed the apparently dry sieves in a large glass cake pan in my kitchen oven at 400F. I then went into the next room to watch TV. After a while I heard a loud bang! I concluded that the ethanol vapor had exploded and pushed open the spring loaded oven door, then it self-closed. I continued the drying.

I did the same thing in my convection/toaster oven. Kaboom haha.
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[*] posted on 3-10-2019 at 13:34


Quote: Originally posted by S.C. Wack  
Quote: Originally posted by wg48temp9  
The simplest and effective method would be to flush the sieves with heated air at 200C.


Dried air. For some hours to constant weight. This is how alumina is dried...or at 400C on the stovetop with stirring for the same time; 200C costs less. It is said 3A sieves should not be heated above 260.

[Edited on 2-9-2019 by S.C. Wack]


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