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[*] posted on 7-12-2024 at 14:31


Due to ongoing research in the field of primary substances, I am publishing 2 more compositions, this time based on a mixture of KClO3 + Sodium Benzoate.
Fig. 1 shows the prepared assembly for the 1st test. Fig. 2 then shows a mixture that was created by simply mixing the 3 components with the help of distilled water and evaporating it. At cca 70 C.

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Fig. B3 shows the complete assembly before firing. A 6/8 mm x 50 steel tube is filled with 300 mg of pressed ETN as the output segment. This is followed by 10 mg of slightly densified ETN. This is followed by a mixture of 150 mg of ETN + 150 mg of the investigated substance in a 1:1 ratio of low density which is pressed around the electric bridge.

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Fig. B5 shows the resulting crater on a lead block. The standard crater from 300mg ETN at full detonation in this (and earlier) setup is typically 14 - 16 mm in diameter, with a depth of 4.5 - 5.5 mm. The resulting crater therefore corresponds to the full detonation of 300 mg of high density ETN.

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Fig. B6 shows the setup for the second firing attempt. The only difference is in the mixture around the resistor bridge, which does not contain ETN. Around the igniter there is only a mixture of KCLO3 75, Na benzoate 25 and CuOH 1. From the experiment it is clear that a failure occurred in Fig. B7.

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Fig. B9 shows the mixture for the 3rd experiment. Here a different mixture was used. KClO3 75 + NaBenzoate 25 + CuO 1 were mixed in a stainless steel pan using distilled water and the mixture was dried at 60 C. Then, using acetone, 6 parts by weight of nitrocellulose (with a high nitrogen content of about 13%) and 3 parts of ETN were added. The mixture was processed into 1x1 mm granules. Fig. B 10 shows a ready-to-detonate assembly containing 300 mg of hi pressed ETN, 10 mg of low pressed ETN, and 300 mg of the described (investigated) mixture around a resistance bridge of low pressed. Fig. 11 shows the full detonation of ETN.

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Conclusion: If a thick steel cavity is used for ETN initiation, it is possible to use alternative primary substances based even on ordinary KClO3 + suitable fuel. Basic observed behavior of the examinated substances: Impact sensitivity:.....same as safety match heads. Friction sensitivity: Failed to cause explosion. Flame sensitivity: Burns similar to gunpowder with loud sputtering.....:cool:





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[*] posted on 13-12-2024 at 13:46


Another interesting substance is a mixture of hexamine di-perchlorate with potassium chlorate. According to the damage to the lead brick, a rough estimate of the VoD of around 4000 m/s in a steel cavity at a high pressed density of around 1.5 g/cc is possible. This mixture can reliably detonate ETN in a solid cavity. The preparation is simple. In a stainless steel pan, dissolve HDP 40% + KClO3 60% in a small amount of distilled water and dry at 80 Celsius. A white non-hygroscopic powder is formed. The crater in the picture is from 300 mg of this mixture in the sense of the output segment with an estimated density of 1.4 - 1.6 g/cc. The same 300mg mixture with a low density of around 1g/cc was used as a starting hot wire segment. Potentially, this substance can be used as a relatively cheap secondary charge with the possibility of plasticization....:cool:



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[*] posted on 13-12-2024 at 19:48


Can you test this comp ina aircraft aluminum capsule to see if it can get similar results as the steel cavity ? Any chance you tested the co- precipitate mix for its capacity to act as a primary?
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[*] posted on 14-12-2024 at 00:46


1....In aluminium cavity will results always weaker. For clarity and comparison, the same cavity is always used in this thread. That is, structural steel 6/8 x 50 mm. For boosters, 8/10 x 22 mm. There are many amateur researchers who use a different cavity and a different material as a target for almost every experiment. And even a different weight of filling. The result is only confusion in the results.

2...Any co-precipitates will probably not be tested. The emphasis in this thread is on making the preparation as simple as possible. A co-precipitate requires precipitation from solution, often with the help of another reagent. And then additional isolation steps follow.




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[*] posted on 14-12-2024 at 23:16


Yes agreed. In industry cost is the main factor in production. Amateur world is a little different(doing what it takes despite the cost) , but keeping costs low is goal for more production. Hense aluminum being a more economical solution. Not that it’s better in its efficiency , but end costs.
The co-precipitated material is pretty simple on this kclo4, ferricyanide dichromate catalyzed comp. IPA alcohol is the crash liquor, very intimate mixture and very energetic for a perchlorate em. If you are getting kclo3 comps to push etc to det, I’m pretty sure this simple comp will probably work in your steel caps
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[*] posted on 15-12-2024 at 02:40


Thanks, ferricyanide looks interestling it will tested sometimes....:cool:



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