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[*] posted on 16-6-2014 at 17:08


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There is a bit of gold mixed in with the dross here, and it IS in "beginnings".

I don't want to detritus, erase or lock the thread. It HAS gone far afield, with apparent hard feelings by some.

Perhaps some could edit their posts a bit for civility, and everyone could either drop it or address the OP's question? There's nothing I can see worth getting bent out of shape or use of colorful language here!




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[*] posted on 17-6-2014 at 02:36


I do not care about the fate of this thread anymore. I got what I was looking for. People have replied that

1. Some people have replied that I can consume reagent grade Zinc Sulfate after 3 or more crystallizations

2. Some people have replied that do not eat reagent grade ZnSO4 at any cost due to dangers of heavy metal contamination




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[*] posted on 17-6-2014 at 03:56


If you are satisfied with vague and contradictory answers, why did you bother asking the question at all? If you provide the certificate of analysis for your reagent grade zinc sulfate it will be possible to answer your question very easily.
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[*] posted on 17-6-2014 at 05:59


Quote: Originally posted by forgottenpassword  
If you are satisfied with vague and contradictory answers, why did you bother asking the question at all? If you provide the certificate of analysis for your reagent grade zinc sulfate it will be possible to answer your question very easily.


By asking the question I came to know that one of the impurities in zinc can be cadmium which as you know is a toxic metal and this info is good enough for me. I will not take the risk of ingesting something which may contain cadmium as one of the impurities.
What is this certificate of analysis which you are asking about? Finally there is no contradiction or vagueness, different people provided their points of view. It was up to ME to decide what to with the info that they provided.




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[*] posted on 17-6-2014 at 06:06


Off Topic, sort of

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Tobacco smoking is the most important single source of cadmium exposure in the general population. It has been estimated that about 10% of the cadmium content of a cigarette is inhaled through smoking. The absorption of cadmium from the lungs is much more effective than that from the gut, and as much as 50% of the cadmium inhaled via cigarette smoke may be absorbed.[62] On average, smokers have 4–5 times higher blood cadmium concentrations and 2–3 times higher kidney cadmium concentrations than non-smokers


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cadmium#Safety

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[*] posted on 17-6-2014 at 09:35


Acetone, if you really have a reagent grade chemical, the supplier should provide a certificate of analysis on request. It will show the purity in a basic percentage at least, and pretty much always includes heavy metals analysis.
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[*] posted on 17-6-2014 at 12:00


Quote: Originally posted by Etaoin Shrdlu  
Acetone, if you really have a reagent grade chemical, the supplier should provide a certificate of analysis on request. It will show the purity in a basic percentage at least, and pretty much always includes heavy metals analysis.


OK I will try asking him.




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[*] posted on 19-7-2022 at 22:51


So... would recrystalizing ZnSO4 in pure Ethanol a few times (as it seems to have been suggested) make it pharma grade / eliminate heavy metal traces?
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[*] posted on 20-7-2022 at 00:01


Maybe, maybe not, without analysis you won't know. Just to summarize this thread.
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[*] posted on 20-7-2022 at 02:57


Does anyone on the forum have trace metal analytical capabilities?

I (or anyone who cares to) can carry out a pre-agreed recrystalization process, send the sample to the person who can do the analysis, and results published here for the general knowledge of whoever is curious to know how efficiently zinc (in the form of sulphate) can be purified from heavy metals using recursive recrystalization alone.
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[*] posted on 22-7-2022 at 03:24


God be with the good old days when petrol contained lead

https://www.chemistryworld.com/news/historical-lead-from-pet...

You can get kits for testing for heavy metals etc.

https://www.simplexhealth.co.uk/product/quick-test-kit-for-c...
Are 'food grade' chemicals safe to eat?
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[*] posted on 22-7-2022 at 11:06


@Veritas: That's not going to work. All you can prove is that that one particular batch made by you using specific raw materials was good. There is no magic process that can guarantee a perfect product. Everything depends on proper analysis.



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[*] posted on 24-7-2022 at 12:29


Quote: Originally posted by Fulmen  
@Veritas: That's not going to work. All you can prove is that that one particular batch made by you using specific raw materials was good. There is no magic process that can guarantee a perfect product. Everything depends on proper analysis.


I can specifically throw in say 100ppm of the corresponding salt of each known impurity (Cd, Hg, As, Pb, Cu, Ag, Co, Ni, Mn, Fe, etc.) into the starting material (the rest being 5N Zinc) to see how each is impacted, thus serving as a generally applicable proof of concept (of course HOW recrystalization is performed has a good impact, but it will prove what recrystalization certainly CAN do, and which impurities it is least efficient at churning out of the initial material).
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