Sciencemadness Discussion Board

Best of SM

Brain&Force - 11-8-2014 at 09:49

Post funny forum quotes, threads, and other material here.

Quote: Originally posted by arkoma  
hopefully you blow [yourself] up with MEKP. It's called "natural selecton"


Very, very true.

"The main resultant product would be a loss of a few fingers, maybe one eye and a lot blood." -kristofvagyok, (from smaerd's signature)

Quote: Originally posted by Antiswat  
however sadly alibabba seems to have failed me for once.. ive seen acetone peroxide, MEKP... FOOD GRADE COPPER AND CD's.. but manganese heptoxide.. no dice :/

Texium - 11-8-2014 at 12:22

This was a fun one, at least for a while anyway.

Also this little exchange:


Screen Shot 2014-08-11 at 3.14.58 PM.png - 132kB

Brain&Force - 11-8-2014 at 12:37

Quote: Originally posted by zts16  
This was a fun one, at least for a while anyway.


I thought that thread was outright deleted...it's ALIVE AGAIN!

Or this one.

Or this:
Quote: Originally posted by The Volatile Chemist  
Quote: Originally posted by Praxichys  
What if religion was widely accepted to be an obsolete way of thinking?

What if your mom was widely accepted to be an obsolete way of thinking? C'mon, this is misc., not whimsey. You're just asking for trouble when you say things like that.

arkoma - 11-8-2014 at 12:59

OMG--the nightshade thread was hilarious

Zyklon-A - 11-8-2014 at 13:10

And this one:http://www.sciencemadness.org/talk/viewthread.php?tid=30428#...

[EDIT] Here's some more:
http://www.sciencemadness.org/talk/viewthread.php?tid=6611
http://www.sciencemadness.org/talk/viewthread.php?tid=4525
The whole "Inverted Penis" vs. Vulture thing:

He became a Super Administrator somehow, but was quickly banned again
Should this thread really be called "Best of Sm"? Worst of SM seems more fitting!

[Edited on 12-8-2014 by Zyklon-A]

BromicAcid - 11-8-2014 at 13:42

My favorite grudge match involving myself

And for us old timers the Acid Test incident will be forever etched in my memories.

Brain&Force - 11-8-2014 at 14:34

Quote: Originally posted by Zyklon-A  
And this one:http://www.sciencemadness.org/talk/viewthread.php?tid=30428#...
Should this thread be called Best of Sm, Worst of SM seems more fitting!
[EDIT] Here's some more:
http://www.sciencemadness.org/talk/viewthread.php?tid=6611
http://www.sciencemadness.org/talk/viewthread.php?tid=4525
The whole "Inverted Penis" vs. Vulture thing:

He became a Super Administrator somehow, but was quickly banned again

[Edited on 11-8-2014 by Zyklon-A]

[Edited on 11-8-2014 by Zyklon-A]


Have you ever seen the best of Craigslist?

Also: Effective immediately, I'm appending this to my signature:

Quote: Originally posted by BromicAcid  
Now I need to take some deep breaths and dissolve some statues of children in acid. Toodles.:D

Pyro - 11-8-2014 at 15:32

hmm, can;t remember who said it, or where but here goes (it was in a thread that had something to do with vacating lab):
''nobody said that shed time and pussy-access have to be mutually exclusive''
that one still cracks my up (might just put it on a sign in my new lab :)


arkoma - 11-8-2014 at 19:00

hmmmm, aga lives in "shed-world"................

Texium - 11-8-2014 at 20:11

Indeed, he is quite fond of his shed. :)

Edit: Nope, it was hissingnoise! http://www.sciencemadness.org/talk/viewthread.php?tid=21764#...


[Edited on 8-12-2014 by zts16]

bismuthate - 12-8-2014 at 04:53

www.sciencemadness.org/talk/viewthread.php?tid=2917#pid31613 the op.
Also the transparent aluminium that PhD chemist talked about.
http://www.sciencemadness.org/talk/viewthread.php?tid=17788#...

[Edited on 12-8-2014 by bismuthate]

Zyklon-A - 12-8-2014 at 05:20

Quote: Originally posted by bismuthate  
www.sciencemadness.org/talk/viewthread.php?tid=2917#pid31613 the op.


Quote:

May I have been exposed by Ricin?
I have tried to extract the poison and both times I have been very ill, the days afterwards.

No shit, you've been exposed to ricin. What were you waiting for? God to write it in the clouds?

bismuthate - 12-8-2014 at 06:08

Actually I think he was the person who got arrested that they talked about in periodic videos.

Texium - 12-8-2014 at 10:47

Here's a weird U2U that wish i had a kraken!!! sent me after I replied to one of his posts...

Screen Shot 2014-08-12 at 1.40.41 PM.png - 19kB

arkoma - 12-8-2014 at 11:14

I like I wish I had a kraken! He gets genuinely excited about his projects. I have U2U'ed him a couple times about idiomatic English that he didn't get at all until I explained it. I think he does OK, because I believe he is about as literate in English as I am in Spanish, namely I can get an idea across, but native speakers are rolling their eyes.

Texium - 12-8-2014 at 16:28

Haha, yeah. it was mostly just funny and unexpected to me.

Pyro - 13-8-2014 at 15:42

http://www.sciencemadness.org/talk/viewthread.php?tid=4777&a...

don't know if it directs you to exactly the right place. but after i posted the pic of a hure mortar and pestle full of 2kg's NiCl2. bfesser quoted the pic, added a facepalm and wrote: ''how not to use a mortar and pestle :D"

Brain&Force - 13-8-2014 at 15:46

Quote: Originally posted by Pyro  
http://www.sciencemadness.org/talk/viewthread.php?tid=4777&a...

don't know if it directs you to exactly the right place. but after i posted the pic of a hure mortar and pestle full of 2kg's NiCl2. bfesser quoted the pic, added a facepalm and wrote: ''how not to use a mortar and pestle :D"


Try copying the link on the very top of the post with the date and time. It should get us there. The link you posted didn't work.

Pyro - 13-8-2014 at 15:51

http://www.sciencemadness.org/talk/viewthread.php?tid=4777&a...
bfesser's reply:
http://www.sciencemadness.org/talk/viewthread.php?tid=4777&a...

Texium - 13-8-2014 at 16:49

Lol, that's great. I miss bfesser.

Pyro - 13-8-2014 at 17:01

where is he?

Brain&Force - 13-8-2014 at 17:02

He quit the forum, but he seems to be on IRC still.

Texium - 13-8-2014 at 17:03

https://www.sciencemadness.org/whisper/viewthread.php?tid=27... Here's where he announced it

Texium - 15-8-2014 at 16:13

Speaking of bfesser, this is just beautiful: https://www.sciencemadness.org/whisper/viewthread.php?tid=23...
Hadn't seen it until just now. :D

TheChemiKid - 15-8-2014 at 18:22

This. Just read the three posts.

Pyro - 20-8-2014 at 04:02

http://www.sciencemadness.org/talk/viewthread.php?tid=8349&a...
posted 04/20 by 12AX7:
Let's all chill. You know, in honor of the date today :D

Sauron:
Which anniversary have you in mind?

It's my wife's birthday April 20

Also Adolf Hitler's birthday.

Somehow I doubt you had either in mind.


But it's really the entire thread that's funny. Polverone starts a thread on not to start flame wars, (heated) non-chem arguments,... and what does it turn into? exactly that!

Pyro - 7-9-2014 at 14:30

http://www.sciencemadness.org/talk/viewthread.php?tid=24908&...


Brain&Force - 8-9-2014 at 12:55

http://www.sciencemadness.org/talk/viewthread.php?tid=603&am...

Oh, the irony...

gdflp - 8-9-2014 at 14:07

http://www.sciencemadness.org/talk/viewthread.php?tid=13264

Fantasma4500 - 9-9-2014 at 09:51

''thanks for the heads up''
cracked me up
that was a worthy read, gdflp

Amos - 9-9-2014 at 10:16

Quote: Originally posted by gdflp  
http://www.sciencemadness.org/talk/viewthread.php?tid=13264


I remember this thread! Nobody ever answered my question!

Random - 12-9-2014 at 13:22

Ph. D chemist time was some fucked up stuff

Texium - 12-9-2014 at 14:26

Quote: Originally posted by Random  
Ph. D chemist time was some fucked up stuff
Ha, yeah, I saw some of those threads. He just kept coming back!

elementcollector1 - 12-9-2014 at 20:15

The sad part is, I don't think he's quite 'dead' yet. So far he's had how many attempted incarnations? nijazmuratovic, softosfera, Nijaz, The.PhD.Chemist, vulture-admin-is-a-gay (particularly enjoyed the response to this one - see Detritus)...

Although his posts are often hilariously misinformed, I do enjoy countertrolling him.

Random - 13-9-2014 at 14:19

But the most fun part about it is that he is from Bosnia iirc. I can recognize some of the balkan mindset in his posts and that makes it even more funny, yeah vulture-admin-is-a-gay was one of the best :))

Brain&Force - 14-9-2014 at 22:23

Look at the son and daughter:

http://www.sciencemadness.org/talk/member.php?action=viewpro...

Screenshot_2014-09-14-23-20-56.png - 86kB

Pyro - 15-9-2014 at 05:16

by the way. what has happened to the porn quality on this forum?
http://www.sciencemadness.org/talk/viewthread.php?tid=24908&...
under here used to be 2 pics of a pretty blonde chem teacher who had had a little accident, shredding her blouse... very innocent and funny, got removed because it was ''porn'' a few posts down is 1man1jar that still stands... YUCK!

PS: if anybody can give me a link as to where i can find those 2 pics again I will be extremely grateful.
A blonde teacher is mixing 2 things together with a blackboard and equations behind her on the first picture, on the second her face has soot on it, as well as a very surprised expression. her blouse is tattered, her hair is sticking straight up an the glass on the bench is shattered

Texium - 16-10-2014 at 15:06

This thread was beautiful (in my opinion) but short-lived. I think it should be moved to Whimsy, so that further discussion may continue, since it contained both an interesting and informative discussion that I'd like to take place in as well as a very entertaining sideshow. Ok, well, the entertaining part really started out as the central point, but eventually it became mostly serious.

Amos - 19-10-2014 at 15:38

Whether it's a well-crafted joke/troll, this one by AsocialSurvival has made me laugh harder than anything else I've found here:
http://www.sciencemadness.org/talk/viewthread.php?tid=39679#...

HeYBrO - 20-10-2014 at 02:39

Throughout the year whilst browsing SM i took some screen shots:



[Edited on 20-10-2014 by HeYBrO]

Screen Shot 2014-08-15 at 8.37.11 pm.png - 19kB Screen Shot 2014-08-28 at 6.49.51 pm.png - 15kB Screen Shot 2014-09-23 at 7.31.29 pm.png - 33kB Screen Shot 2014-10-02 at 7.16.15 pm.png - 63kB Screen Shot 2014-10-20 at 9.28.10 pm.png - 69kB

[Edited on 20-10-2014 by HeYBrO]

Screen Shot 2014-10-12 at 8.53.03 am.png - 35kB

Screen Shot 2014-08-21 at 6.29.29 pm.png - 139kB

[Edited on 20-10-2014 by HeYBrO]

Brain&Force - 21-10-2014 at 13:20

Lookie! I took a screenshot too!

Screenshot (2).png - 431kB

HeYBrO - 21-10-2014 at 18:11

Me too!

Screen Shot 2014-10-22 at 1.11.12 pm.png - 102kB

Brain&Force - 28-10-2014 at 09:59

One of my dumber moments; I need more sleep:
Quote: Originally posted by blogfast25  
Quote: Originally posted by Brain&Force  
I'm wondering, if you flush out O2 with propane, will that work to prevent the lithium from reacting or will it just introduce side reactions?


KA-BOOOOMMM!

j_sum1 - 30-10-2014 at 16:55

Quote: Originally posted by No Tears Only Dreams Now  
Quote: Originally posted by aga  
I have a bottle of 1-month old packed lunch in a drawer, and feel sure i'll have to make some fresh before use.


Aga, you can keep it indefinitely, actually. You just might need to wash it with sodium bicarbonate and redistill/dry it, but that's way less work than starting from scratch again.

Texium - 2-11-2014 at 09:21

https://www.sciencemadness.org/whisper/viewthread.php?tid=47...

"...great to see there are still companies that have not given into fearmongering and will send a private citizen chlorine gas. For free nonetheless. This warms my heart, it really does." -The_Davster

Thought that was funny. :)

[Edited on 11-2-2014 by zts16]

Chemosynthesis - 11-11-2014 at 22:03

I'm not sure why, but this two post thread makes me and a friend laugh whenever I see it. It was so bizarre, I had to share with them.
https://www.sciencemadness.org/whisper/viewthread.php?tid=29...

Fantasma4500 - 12-11-2014 at 08:40

chemosynthesis.. can you please give me name of thread? im being told that sciencemadness is hacking my computer when i try to get through the link

Chemosynthesis - 13-11-2014 at 00:53

"Nitrourea" in Detritus.

Amos - 13-11-2014 at 07:26

Quote: Originally posted by Antiswat  
chemosynthesis.. can you please give me name of thread? im being told that sciencemadness is hacking my computer when i try to get through the link


If that keeps bothering you, you can just get rid of the "s" in "https" on the URL.

Fantasma4500 - 14-11-2014 at 15:29

thanks, both.. ill keep it in mind

Brain&Force - 15-11-2014 at 19:34

Alright, who registered "Brain&Farce?" :D

Chemosynthesis - 25-11-2014 at 06:23

Better than "Drain&Farce" I suppose.

Brain&Force - 26-11-2014 at 15:11

That member seems to have disappeared...

Brain&Farce - 26-11-2014 at 15:20

Quote: Originally posted by Brain&Force  
That member seems to have disappeared...
hi

CuReUS - 27-11-2014 at 08:41

this is from another forum ,mostly run by junkies
http://forum.opiophile.org/archive/index.php/t-23867.html

read from the 7th post by Paregoric Kid

the best is the way they write chemical equations(the post by DCBA), and the fun only begins from there:D

i wonder what nicodem would say to them;)




Mailinmypocket - 5-12-2014 at 08:13

Threads like this are some of the best of SM, sadly these days it seems like these detailed and well made write ups are few and far between :(

http://www.sciencemadness.org/talk/viewthread.php?tid=9921#p...


The Volatile Chemist - 5-12-2014 at 13:44

I was surprised, but happy to see some of the things I wrote in the beginning. One I didn't even remember posting, asking what would happen if praxchis's mother 'became obsolete'.
There've been some really funny things stated, but I cant remember any at the moment.

aga - 5-12-2014 at 13:56

Quote: Originally posted by Chemosynthesis  
Better than "Drain&Farce" I suppose.

Or Brain&Fart.

For the record, it wasn't me, as far as i remember.

Brain&Force - 5-12-2014 at 18:25

It's not any current member of the forum.

Brain&Force - 17-12-2014 at 11:53

Forget all the crap we post here, this may be the best post on the forum in terms of quality.

http://www.sciencemadness.org/talk/viewthread.php?tid=54899&...

turd - 21-12-2014 at 01:18

Kind of sad that someone would consider mildly funny banter as "the best of SM".

The best is of course actual experiments, not hypothetical drivel. I might be biased, but for me the most relevant contributions happen to be more or less blatant cookery, e.g. https://www.sciencemadness.org/whisper/viewthread.php?tid=11...
Substance abuse is a good motivator. :)

Texium - 22-12-2014 at 09:21

Quote: Originally posted by turd  
Kind of sad that someone would consider mildly funny banter as "the best of SM".

The best is of course actual experiments, not hypothetical drivel. I might be biased, but for me the most relevant contributions happen to be more or less blatant cookery, e.g. https://www.sciencemadness.org/whisper/viewthread.php?tid=11...
Substance abuse is a good motivator. :)
Seriously? I think all of this recent talk of cookery making up the majority of recent posts is greatly overexaggerated. There's a few posts here and there, sure. But there are countless other active threads that have nothing to do with cookery. Sure, there haven't been many nice syntheses lately, but there has been plenty of good discussion.

As for the stuff posted in this thread, well, I'm inclined to agree with you. The silly stuff that has been posted is fun to look back on, but clearly not the most valuable content by any means.

Brain&Force - 7-1-2015 at 21:08

The term "Best of SM" was meant sarcastically. Ever heard of the Best of Craigslist?

This is the best burn I've ever seen on the forum.

Quote: Originally posted by jock88  

Yes, there's nothing like a good night in. Stoned out of your mind on whiskey and having a good session at the front of your transvestite.

::):(:D;):cool::mad::o:P

Nitric acid is still available for washing milking machines. I wouldn't mind getting my hands on a few gallons and washing the local tax official.

gardul - 7-1-2015 at 21:18

Quote: Originally posted by Brain&Force  
The term "Best of SM" was meant sarcastically. Ever heard of the Best of Craigslist?

This is the best burn I've ever seen on the forum.

Quote: Originally posted by jock88  

Yes, there's nothing like a good night in. Stoned out of your mind on whiskey and having a good session at the front of your transvestite.

::):(:D;):cool::mad::o:P

Nitric acid is still available for washing milking machines. I wouldn't mind getting my hands on a few gallons and washing the local tax official.


Only problem of that burn is i'm not to sure who it was actually directed at. The only two people I can think of is ether Me or Turd.

Brain&Force - 8-1-2015 at 08:58

The tax collector, of course!

The Volatile Chemist - 9-1-2015 at 07:06

I like your new title, 'hazard to lanthanides', B&F.

Brain&Force - 11-1-2015 at 17:26

Thanks! I guess it will become a bit more relevant here shortly.

The Volatile Chemist - 12-1-2015 at 16:37

Quote: Originally posted by Brain&Force  
Thanks! I guess it will become a bit more relevant here shortly.

Sounds interesting.... acquire some?
If you get a chance, and have some Ferro- or Ferricyanide around, I'd love to see what color each indicator turns with solutions of various lanthanides.

gdflp - 16-2-2015 at 12:21

This has got to be a record Zombie! Not necessarily a good record, but...:P

Record.png - 90kB

Zombie - 16-2-2015 at 12:37

Yeah... Kickin' ass, and takin' notes! That's right!

yankee_tough_guy_sb_by_john61100-d5w49ke.png - 121kB

mayko - 16-2-2015 at 14:19

perhaps it's best that some people are permabanned, but damn if they don't crank out the lulz while they're here.

The Volatile Chemist - 16-2-2015 at 14:54

Quote: Originally posted by gdflp  
This has got to be a record Zombie! Not necessarily a good record, but...:P

Hey.... I coulda swore I got more than that one day.....Oh well, good to see an active member :)

Zombie - 16-2-2015 at 16:49

Quote: Originally posted by The Volatile Chemist  
Quote: Originally posted by gdflp  
This has got to be a record Zombie! Not necessarily a good record, but...:P

Hey.... I coulda swore I got more than that one day.....Oh well, good to see an active member :)



Here to learn bro. Takin' notes!!;)

Zombie - 16-2-2015 at 16:52

Quote: Originally posted by mayko  
perhaps it's best that some people are permabanned, but damn if they don't crank out the lulz while they're here.



Sorry,

I thought MY post was funny. I'm not enticing people to blow them selves up!

Maybe to giggle a little...:cool:

Brain&Force - 21-2-2015 at 23:39

This gem:

Quote: Originally posted by IrC  
Quote: Originally posted by j_sum1  
Cooking is chemistry. Food is reagents. And they don't explode.


Obviously you have never watched me microwave dinner.

j_sum1 - 29-7-2015 at 15:58

Quote: Originally posted by aga  
Gas was evolved in all samples, all acids.

Most vigorous with HCl, tested +ve for CO2.

I would go get the notes, but there's a snake in the shed again at the moment.

When they're happy and at ease they move slowly.

If Startled, they could easily smash up my glassware.

Usually they are gone in the morning.

j_sum1 - 29-10-2016 at 03:16

From here:
https://www.sciencemadness.org/whisper/viewthread.php?tid=70...




29-10-2016 9-11-09 PM.png - 36kB

Tin man - 13-12-2016 at 10:19

Found here
http://www.sciencemadness.org/talk/viewthread.php?tid=17030

Capture+_2016-12-13-13-14-18.png - 341kB

A Halogenated Substance - 10-2-2017 at 18:11

Randomly browsing around led me to to the posts of "futurenobellaureate".
Two or three of his fifteen posts are quite entertaining :) :

http://www.sciencemadness.org/talk/viewthread.php?tid=6259

http://www.sciencemadness.org/talk/viewthread.php?tid=6231#p...


mayko - 10-2-2017 at 21:20

QuantumCore threads are always good for a nervous chuckle:

http://www.sciencemadness.org/talk/viewthread.php?tid=62175

j_sum1 - 11-2-2017 at 00:28

Quote: Originally posted by A Halogenated Substance  
Randomly browsing around led me to to the posts of "futurenobellaureate".
Two or three of his fifteen posts are quite entertaining :) :

http://www.sciencemadness.org/talk/viewthread.php?tid=6259

http://www.sciencemadness.org/talk/viewthread.php?tid=6231#p...


Oh dear. These are tragic.

wg48 - 11-2-2017 at 03:37

Quote: Originally posted by j_sum1  
Quote: Originally posted by A Halogenated Substance  
Randomly browsing around led me to to the posts of "futurenobellaureate".
Two or three of his fifteen posts are quite entertaining :) :

http://www.sciencemadness.org/talk/viewthread.php?tid=6259

http://www.sciencemadness.org/talk/viewthread.php?tid=6231#p...


Oh dear. These are tragic.


Hopefully he was home schooled in a cave by leprechauns lol

Perhaps even more tragically, the response was about 100 posts and we have just added two more !!!!!

gdflp - 11-2-2017 at 08:34

Quote: Originally posted by A Halogenated Substance  
Randomly browsing around led me to to the posts of "futurenobellaureate".
Two or three of his fifteen posts are quite entertaining :) :

http://www.sciencemadness.org/talk/viewthread.php?tid=6259

http://www.sciencemadness.org/talk/viewthread.php?tid=6231#p...


Those are some PHDChemist level posts. Early iteration/inspiration?;)

j_sum1 - 12-2-2017 at 22:16

For sheer variety in responses
https://www.sciencemadness.org/whisper/viewthread.php?tid=72...

Ok, maybe not quite qualifying for "best of". The subject material itself precludes that. But the range of responses does go to show what an eclectic bunch we are.

j_sum1 - 8-10-2017 at 16:33

https://www.sciencemadness.org/whisper/viewthread.php?tid=77...

Quote:
I watched my daughter put a ca. 1/2 cup of PVA glue into a bowel


And later...
Quote:

BINGO, I spotted my mistake


I hope you would.

ninhydric1 - 8-10-2017 at 18:21

I laughed my ass off at this one:
http://www.sciencemadness.org/talk/viewthread.php?tid=75541#...

Vosoryx - 9-10-2017 at 13:45

Yeah, that was fun.
Sometimes the trolls can be annoying, (kratom3million anyone?) But that was quite entertaining.

The Volatile Chemist - 11-10-2017 at 14:20

Zts16 dealing with the forum scum:

Quote:
Sorry, this isn't Yahoo answers


Hilarious

SWIM - 26-10-2017 at 11:11


This post by Polverone made me think I had slipped into the twilight zone or something

Quote:

andreseris, if u keep being such a fagget i will ban u.

lol.

im serious.


Is that really Polverone, or his kewl twin with a goatee from some evil alternate universe?



j_sum1 - 31-10-2017 at 16:12

https://www.sciencemadness.org/whisper/viewthread.php?tid=77...

Quite simply, the ion is a jerk.
Love it!

Quote: Originally posted by clearly_not_atara  
Ammonium bitartrate is even more insoluble than cesium bitartrate:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solubility_table
(1.88% at 10 C and 2.7% at 20 C)

In general bitartrate salts of monovalent ions are very insoluble, although sodium is (usually!) the exception. I believe lithium bitartrate also has high solubility. Zinc forms double salts; magnesium inhibits the deposition of tartrates. Quite simply, the ion is a jerk.
Hexamethonium bitartrate on the other hand has a very high solubility because it is a double quaternary ammonium salt which cannot form a tightly bonded crystal structure with bitartrate ions.
It's possible that lysine or arginine could be used as the base, though, since their bitartrates should be quite soluble. It should be possible to obtain these. But I still think sodium bitartrate can work pretty well as long as you're careful with the stoichiometry.
Calcium nitrate might also work, since cesium nitrate has roughly the same solubility as cesium bitartrate, whereas Ca(NO3)2 is extremely soluble.

[Edited on 1-11-2017 by clearly_not_atara]



j_sum1 - 1-1-2018 at 19:50

Then there is this Polish guy with a time machine.
2-01-2018 1-41-31 PM.png - 43kB

And Google bends the space-time continuium even more.

2-01-2018 1-48-08 PM.png - 25kB

j_sum1 - 22-5-2019 at 19:22

Loved this from Mayko: with reference to the pic three posts above.

Quote: Originally posted by mayko  
My advice is: rotate your lab about 90 degrees; working sideways is both difficult and unsafe!!