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OTC Cadaverine and Putrescine

cnidocyte - 3-9-2010 at 13:44

Anyone here tried this? Ethylene glycol can be found easily but I don't know about butylene glycol and pentylene glycol. Maybe a better idea would be to do a reductive amination on formic acid with propylamine then substitute the hydroxyl group with an amino group. Dunno where the hell I'd get propylamine though. Any ideas?

[Edited on 3-9-2010 by cnidocyte]

zed - 3-9-2010 at 18:38

Nature knows best. Seems to me these pungent puke producers, might be best synthesized by the decarboxylation of amino acids.

Way I remember it, refluxing Lysine with a high boiling ketone, will produce cadaverine
straightaway. Yields might not be great, but how much cadaverine, does a guy really need?

Alternately, you could try fermenting a dead rat, but that, I suppose, would be cheating.

ScienceSquirrel - 3-9-2010 at 18:54

Why not make some spermine?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spermine

I can vouch for the fact that it smells like semen at even trace amounts!

cnidocyte - 4-9-2010 at 04:24

Quote: Originally posted by zed  
Nature knows best. Seems to me these pungent puke producers, might be best synthesized by the decarboxylation of amino acids.

Didn't think of that, thanks.
Quote: Originally posted by zed  
Yields might not be great, but how much cadaverine, does a guy really need?

I'm planning on producing a new brand of perfume. Eau de Mort haha.

The WiZard is In - 4-9-2010 at 06:31

Quote: Originally posted by zed  
Nature knows best. Seems to me these pungent puke producers, might be best synthesized by the decarboxylation of amino acids.

Way I remember it, refluxing Lysine with a high boiling ketone, will produce cadaverine
straightaway. Yields might not be great, but how much cadaverine, does a guy really need?

Alternately, you could try fermenting a dead rat, but that, I suppose, would be cheating.




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A dead clam/oyster will produce an odour that will bring
your lunch up — that fast. One would suspect the chemical(s)
responsible is sulphur based.

Byda the The Merck Index cites Ladenburg, Ber. 18,2956 (1885)
for prep of Cava-d.