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Please can any one help me on epichlorohydrin production method
PLEASE CAN ANY ONE HELP ME ON EPICHLOROHYDRIN PRODUCTION METHOD I WANT TO USE IT TO PRODUCE cationic etherifying agent (CTA)
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http://www.orgsyn.org/orgsyn/prep.asp?prep=CV1P0292
http://www.orgsyn.org/orgsyn/orgsyn/prepContent.asp?prep=cv1...
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Is your cap lock button glued down or something? All caps gives the impression that you are YELLING.
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PLEASE I DONT STILL UNDERSTAND PRODUCTION OF EPICHLOROHYDRIN PLEASE CAN YOU EXPLAIN BETTER? OR IS THERE ANY BETTER PRODUCTION METHOD?
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sonogashira
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If you are not able to make it you should buy it. It is a cheap bulk chemical.
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diamond
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It is not sold in my area
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Quote: Originally posted by diamond | PLEASE I DONT STILL UNDERSTAND PRODUCTION OF EPICHLOROHYDRIN PLEASE CAN YOU EXPLAIN BETTER? OR IS THERE ANY BETTER PRODUCTION METHOD?
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Take an O-Chem class... What is it that you don't understand? What part of the synthesis is problematic? What are your obstacles? Elaborate a bit
instead of YELLING your vague inquiries at the whole forum...
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diamond
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Mailinmypocket , YOU HAVE NEVER CONTRIBUTED ANYTHING + TO THIS TOPIC SO DONT .................................
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Diamond, please provide more information as Mailinmypocket has requested and stop capitalizing whole words.
PGP Key and corresponding e-mail address
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diamond
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Am sorry if I over reacted , all I wanted was another method that will involve mixing of chemical without distillation
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So is the problem that you do not have a distillation apparatus? Sadly just mixing things together in a "one-pot" approach will not work in this case.
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Slightly off-topic, but on Wikipedia epichlorohydrin is said to be prepared with HOCl and NaOH industrially. Why not MCPBA?
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Im going to say cost. Bleach and lye are much cheaper than mCPBA
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HOW Epichlorohydrin is manufactured from Bleach and lye
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kch
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You would need allyl chloride, which I doubt you have
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diamond
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PLEASE IS IT POSSIBLE I HAVE hypochlorite AND LYE ? I HAVE BOTH
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<img src="../scipics/_warn.png" /> <strong>diamond</strong>, one more capslock post and I'll delete
this entire topic. <img src="../scipics/_warn.png" />
You've been asked nicely several times. The sheer ignorance and lack of effort displayed in your posts is offense enough, but the capslock...
<img src="https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/3421065728/hB210BCE4/" />
[It's taking all of my self-control to not just report this idiot's posts as spam and see him get auto-banned by the script.]
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diamond
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Sorry for that, I am not a chemist I am an Engineer trying to work with chemical
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Lord help us
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Amen!!!
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diamond, the Org. Syn. procedures that sonogashira provided in the first reply are probably your best bet.
I doubt you'll find any cheaper or simpler route. There is no such thing as
"hypochloride" (I assume you meant hypochlorite), and we prefer to call it sodium hydroxide (NaOH), rather than the colloquial and
somewhat ambiguous term, lye. Regardless, you can't manufacture <em>any</em> organic compound with only NaOH and NaOCl—that
would be alchemy, as there's no carbon! By the way, what do you need <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epichlorohydrin"
target="_blank">epichlorohydrin (ECH)</a> <img src="../scipics/_wiki.png" /> for, anyway? Perhaps we could suggest an available
alternative, if you supply more information. ECH is pretty nasty stuff (<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFPA_704" target="_blank">NFPA
704</a> <img src="../scipics/_wiki.png" /> of 3,3,2), and not something that a non-experienced chemist should attempt to prepare or
handle.
Mailinmypocket, comments like that aren't helpful.
kch, it's clear what you meant, but please define acronyms and abbreviations before using them. Non-chemists have a hell of a time
trying to understand the conversation, otherwise.
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meta-Chloroperoxybenzoic_acid"
target="_blank">meta-chloroperoxybenzoicacid (mCPBA)</a> <img src="../scipics/_wiki.png" />
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diamond
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Thanks bfesser , I only needed epichlorohydrin production method for industrial production. please
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Nobody can help you unless we know what building blocks you have access to. For instance, do you have allyl chloride?
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Quote: Originally posted by kch |
Nobody can help you unless we know what building blocks you have access to. For instance, do you have allyl chloride? |
Thanks please how do I convert Allyl chloride to Epichlorohydrin
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