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[*] posted on 22-1-2007 at 13:58


JEANBERGIAN I rest my case :)



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[*] posted on 22-1-2007 at 14:02


to Elucidate...

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If I had a cooling sistem up to the job, this would be my pet.Do you know yow many B.Units need to do ,say, 4
ounces? At 70 / 80F ?
Urea is cheap and simple to get.


reads Alc or Drug induced .




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[*] posted on 22-1-2007 at 14:14


I think the most salient point from almost all those explosions is that excess AN, in the exploding heap, was thrown significantly far and did not itself detonate. A pretty shitty explosive if a sizable fraction (like, more than half) doesn't explode!

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[*] posted on 22-1-2007 at 16:08


from here

Ammonium nitrate, in solid or molten
form or in solution, is a stable compound
and generally is difficult to explode.
Ammonium nitrate may explode, however,
when exposed to strong shock or to high
temperature under confinement. In a large
quantity of ammonium nitrate, localized areas
of high temperature may be sufficiently confined
by the total quantity to initiate an explosion. The
explosion of a small quantity of ammonium
nitrate in a confined space (e.g., a pipe) may
initiate the explosion of larger quantities (e.g.,
in an associated vessel).
Contaminants may increase the explosion
hazard of ammonium nitrate. Organic materials
generally will make ammonium nitrate
explosions more energetic. Ammonium nitrate
may be sensitized by certain inorganic
contaminants, including chlorides and some
metals, such as chromium, copper, cobalt, and
nickel. As ammonium nitrate solution becomes
more acidic, its stability decreases, and it may
be more likely to explode.
Low density areas, such as bubbles, in molten
ammonium nitrate or solutions, also may
increase the possibility of an explosion and
enhance the propagation of an explosion.
Ammonium nitrate by itself does not burn, but
in contact with other combustible materials, it
increases the fire hazard. It can support and
intensify a fire even in the absence of air. Fires
involving ammonium nitrate can release toxic
nitrogen oxides and ammonia. A fire involving
ammonium nitrate in an enclosed space could
lead to an explosion. Closed containers may
rupture violently when heated.
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[*] posted on 2-2-2007 at 11:34


Any soluble salt of ammonia + NaHCO3/Na2CO3, just mix solutions and boil them. That will result in ammonia gas and corresponding salt of sodium, for example:

Na2CO3 + 2NH4Cl = (boiling) => 2NaCl + 2NH3 + H2O + CO2

Ammonia is dried by passing colunms with KOH and is liquified/freezed in U shape tubing cooled by dry CO2 (dry ice) / acetonе mixture (-90C temperature could be reached).
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[*] posted on 5-2-2007 at 22:25


can someone help me out with this??

http://www.sciencemadness.org/talk/viewthread.php?tid=7695

is just about making ammonia from urea

thx in advance
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[*] posted on 11-3-2008 at 16:25


The bottom line is NH4NO3 is difficult to detonate even with a blasting cap and a booster charge ON PURPOSE. I'm thinking these incidents only happen with HUGE quantities of NH4NO3 and I believe it presents virtually zero risk to the home experimenter.



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[*] posted on 11-3-2008 at 18:21


Quote:
Originally posted by Engager
Any soluble salt of ammonia + NaHCO3/Na2CO3, just mix solutions and boil them. That will result in ammonia gas and corresponding salt of sodium, for example:

Na2CO3 + 2NH4Cl = (boiling) => 2NaCl + 2NH3 + H2O + CO2



However using a carbonate leads to the formation of ammonium carbonates and carbamates in the takeoff tubing. For some applications this is not a problem, a solution of the gases can be considered a solution of ammonium carbonate, as is used in some inorganic analysis. But if the goal is strong aqueous ammonia, or liquid ammonia, you had best use a hydroxide rather than a carbonate.
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