Pages:
1
2
3
4
5 |
j_sum1
Administrator
![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif)
Posts: 6256
Registered: 4-10-2014
Location: Unmoved
Member Is Offline
Mood: Organised
|
|
Quote: Originally posted by skip ![](images/xpblue/lastpost.gif) | I would like to enter the contest. I have couple ideas that I been toying with , all otc and harmless. Cost about 50 bucks. Just for fun of course.
|
Great. I can't wait to see your ideas! And everyone else's of course. I think this is going to be really exciting when the submissions come in.
|
|
Agari
Banned
Posts: 160
Registered: 8-10-2015
Location: The Amine Group
Member Is Offline
Mood: Lowest Oxidation State
|
|
Quote: Originally posted by j_sum1 ![](images/xpblue/lastpost.gif) | Quote: Originally posted by skip ![](images/xpblue/lastpost.gif) | I would like to enter the contest. I have couple ideas that I been toying with , all otc and harmless. Cost about 50 bucks. Just for fun of course.
|
Great. I can't wait to see your ideas! And everyone else's of course. I think this is going to be really exciting when the submissions come in.
|
I am interested in what can be made with harmless reagents that cost less than $50,with the final product also being harmless as well.
I am just a bit nervous right now,so I will ask again just to be safe before it's too late: If tap water is used to form part of the final
product,does it count as an item? What about electrodes that contain a material that can be used as a catalyst for a reaction(And is obviously not
consumed in said reaction)?
I don't want to get disqualified for using an extra item due to a misunderstanding,so I want to clarify this completely.
[Edited on 17-12-2015 by Agari]
Element Collection Status:
Elements Acquired: 21/91
Latest: Lead (Pb)
Quantity: 12g
-----------------------------------------------------
|
|
j_sum1
Administrator
![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif)
Posts: 6256
Registered: 4-10-2014
Location: Unmoved
Member Is Offline
Mood: Organised
|
|
@Agiri
Both your questions are addressed in the instructions.
Tap water is ok.
Lab equipment that is not consumed does not count as an item. That would include catalysts. But of course, if your catalyst was not unrecoverable,
that would be an issue.
|
|
Agari
Banned
Posts: 160
Registered: 8-10-2015
Location: The Amine Group
Member Is Offline
Mood: Lowest Oxidation State
|
|
Quote: Originally posted by j_sum1 ![](images/xpblue/lastpost.gif) | @Agiri
Both your questions are addressed in the instructions.
Tap water is ok.
Lab equipment that is not consumed does not count as an item. That would include catalysts. But of course, if your catalyst was not unrecoverable,
that would be an issue. |
WHEW! That sure is a relief.
Element Collection Status:
Elements Acquired: 21/91
Latest: Lead (Pb)
Quantity: 12g
-----------------------------------------------------
|
|
j_sum1
Administrator
![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif)
Posts: 6256
Registered: 4-10-2014
Location: Unmoved
Member Is Offline
Mood: Organised
|
|
Quote: Originally posted by j_sum1 ![](images/xpblue/lastpost.gif) | @Agiri
Both your questions are addressed in the instructions.
Tap water is ok.
Lab equipment that is not consumed does not count as an item. That would include catalysts. But of course, if your catalyst was not unrecoverable,
that would be an issue. |
I meant "not recoverable".
Lest there be confusion.
Don't never not use no double negatives.
|
|
Agari
Banned
Posts: 160
Registered: 8-10-2015
Location: The Amine Group
Member Is Offline
Mood: Lowest Oxidation State
|
|
Ah,the intentional or unintentional misuse of grammar,one of the most irritating things that I can't help but react to.
Element Collection Status:
Elements Acquired: 21/91
Latest: Lead (Pb)
Quantity: 12g
-----------------------------------------------------
|
|
Volanschemia
Hazard to Others
![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif)
Posts: 340
Registered: 16-1-2015
Location: Victoria, Australia
Member Is Offline
Mood: Pretty much all of them!
|
|
Quote: Originally posted by Agari ![](images/xpblue/lastpost.gif) |
Ah,the intentional or unintentional misuse of grammar,one of the most irritating things that I can't help but react to.
|
In case you didn't get the humor in that line, it was actually meant to be taken as a joke.
"The chemists are a strange class of mortals, impelled by an almost insane impulse to seek their pleasures amid smoke and
vapor, soot and flame, poisons and poverty; yet among all these evils I seem to live so sweetly that may I die if I were to change places with the
Persian king" - Johann Joachim Becher, 1635 to 1682.
|
|
Agari
Banned
Posts: 160
Registered: 8-10-2015
Location: The Amine Group
Member Is Offline
Mood: Lowest Oxidation State
|
|
I know it was meant to be a joke,I am just saying that I find misuse of grammar very irritating,whether it was done on purpose or not.
Element Collection Status:
Elements Acquired: 21/91
Latest: Lead (Pb)
Quantity: 12g
-----------------------------------------------------
|
|
j_sum1
Administrator
![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif)
Posts: 6256
Registered: 4-10-2014
Location: Unmoved
Member Is Offline
Mood: Organised
|
|
I'll try not to irritate you again agari.
|
|
numos
Hazard to Others
![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif)
Posts: 269
Registered: 22-2-2014
Location: Pasadena
Member Is Offline
Mood: No Mood
|
|
Count me in!
Question: You made it pretty clear that the results should be geared towards beginners, ones an amateur can replicate, does that mean there is a
restriction on hazard level? There are some pretty bad nasties that can be made from simple household chemicals that are still useful intermediates...
-numos
|
|
j_sum1
Administrator
![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif)
Posts: 6256
Registered: 4-10-2014
Location: Unmoved
Member Is Offline
Mood: Organised
|
|
I will post submissions so they are available to all. Just include appropriate hazard information in your submission so that anyone following your
procedure knows what to expect and how to look after themselves.
People have killed themselves using bleach and ammonia. I would not want to exclude these for example.
|
|
The Volatile Chemist
International Hazard
![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif)
Posts: 1981
Registered: 22-3-2014
Location: 'Stil' in the lab...
Member Is Offline
Mood: Copious
|
|
Hmm, we've got plenty of time, I'll put it off a little longer...
|
|
Volanschemia
Hazard to Others
![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif)
Posts: 340
Registered: 16-1-2015
Location: Victoria, Australia
Member Is Offline
Mood: Pretty much all of them!
|
|
I'm waiting a couple of days for the weather to cool down a bit before I start mine. Wouldn't want anything to get to excited...
"The chemists are a strange class of mortals, impelled by an almost insane impulse to seek their pleasures amid smoke and
vapor, soot and flame, poisons and poverty; yet among all these evils I seem to live so sweetly that may I die if I were to change places with the
Persian king" - Johann Joachim Becher, 1635 to 1682.
|
|
The Volatile Chemist
International Hazard
![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif)
Posts: 1981
Registered: 22-3-2014
Location: 'Stil' in the lab...
Member Is Offline
Mood: Copious
|
|
Haha, I may set out the main part of my reaction tomorrow to see if it works. If it does, I'll go ahead with my plan.
|
|
j_sum1
Administrator
![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif)
Posts: 6256
Registered: 4-10-2014
Location: Unmoved
Member Is Offline
Mood: Organised
|
|
Bumpity Bump.
No noise on this project for a while and so I just thought I would draw attention to it again. Competition closes in a couple of months so it is not
too late to make a start. Of course that time could slip away quickly if you are not careful.
As always, post here or send me a message if you have questions.
Feel free also to give a progress report or encourage others along.
J.
|
|
JJay
International Hazard
![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif)
Posts: 3440
Registered: 15-10-2015
Member Is Offline
|
|
I am pretty sure I have decided on a project for the contest entry. One question - am I correct in assuming that water does not count as one of the
five OTC items (since one could build an apparatus to extract it from the air)?
|
|
j_sum1
Administrator
![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif)
Posts: 6256
Registered: 4-10-2014
Location: Unmoved
Member Is Offline
Mood: Organised
|
|
Good to hear Jjay. I can't wait to read the submissions.
In the rules, water and air can be used as much as you want without counting towards the five items.
|
|
The Volatile Chemist
International Hazard
![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif)
Posts: 1981
Registered: 22-3-2014
Location: 'Stil' in the lab...
Member Is Offline
Mood: Copious
|
|
I hope my lack of unique experiments is overcome by the hopefully good presentation I make...
|
|
j_sum1
Administrator
![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif)
Posts: 6256
Registered: 4-10-2014
Location: Unmoved
Member Is Offline
Mood: Organised
|
|
TVC
I am sure you will do a great job. I have said it before but I will repeat it. I can't wait to see all of the submissions. My only concern is that
with the generous time scale the momentum has worn off for a few competitors. I know of two who have had to pull out due to a change of
circumstances. I am hoping for a good turn out. But if not, I would say that if you submit something then your chances of walking away with
a grand prize are pretty good.
|
|
The Volatile Chemist
International Hazard
![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif)
Posts: 1981
Registered: 22-3-2014
Location: 'Stil' in the lab...
Member Is Offline
Mood: Copious
|
|
Thanks!
Today I'll begin the write-up, and I realized a way I could use something more complex for one of my five items without loosing any of the reactions.
Thanks for running this! Looking forward to seeing everyone Else's entries.
|
|
j_sum1
Administrator
![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif)
Posts: 6256
Registered: 4-10-2014
Location: Unmoved
Member Is Offline
Mood: Organised
|
|
Just alerting everyone that this has about ten days left.
Prize is still good.
If you haven't started then it is probably cutting it a wee bit fine. If you have made some progress, time to write up what you have. I am really
looking forward to seeing all the ideas.
|
|
JJay
International Hazard
![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif)
Posts: 3440
Registered: 15-10-2015
Member Is Offline
|
|
I have some time off work, so here is what I am experimenting with this weekend:
|
|
j_sum1
Administrator
![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif)
Posts: 6256
Registered: 4-10-2014
Location: Unmoved
Member Is Offline
Mood: Organised
|
|
woohoo!
What is in your starter fluid?
I can see some interesting possibilities here.
|
|
JJay
International Hazard
![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif)
Posts: 3440
Registered: 15-10-2015
Member Is Offline
|
|
Diethyl ether, light petroleum (really, a mixture of n-heptane and methylcyclohexane), and carbon dioxide.
|
|
JJay
International Hazard
![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif)
Posts: 3440
Registered: 15-10-2015
Member Is Offline
|
|
I don't think I'm going to complete my entry by the deadline, but hopefully someone wins that prize
|
|
Pages:
1
2
3
4
5 |