zephler
Harmless
Posts: 27
Registered: 30-10-2010
Member Is Offline
Mood: No Mood
|
|
33% (or stronger?) homemade HBr in acetic acid
Since I've only ever seen 33% HBr in acetic acid, I assume this is the strongest you can get (although I thought I did see 70% once - oh well). If
one were to have Br2 in cold glacial AA, could you just bubble H2 through the solution and get the required conc of HBr in GAA?
|
|
chemrox
International Hazard
![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif)
Posts: 2961
Registered: 18-1-2007
Location: UTM
Member Is Offline
Mood: LaGrangian
|
|
look up how HBr is made in one of the texts like Vogels
"When you let the dumbasses vote you end up with populism followed by autocracy and getting back is a bitch." Plato (sort of)
|
|
madscientist
|
Thread Moved 4-12-2010 at 23:58 |
Picric-A
National Hazard
![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif)
Posts: 796
Registered: 1-5-2008
Location: England
Member Is Offline
Mood: Fuming
|
|
Saturate GAA with bromine then pass in a steady stream of SO2. You should be left with a conc solution of HBr in GAA with a H2SO4.
|
|
woelen
Super Administrator
![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif)
Posts: 7998
Registered: 20-8-2005
Location: Netherlands
Member Is Offline
Mood: interested
|
|
Where should the hydrogens come from? Br2 and SO2 do not react under these conditions. For each molecule of Br2 you also have to add a molecule of
H2O.
|
|
Vogelzang
Banned
Posts: 662
Registered: 26-4-2008
Member Is Offline
Mood: No Mood
|
|
How about this?
http://www.sciencemadness.org/talk/viewthread.php?tid=10576#...
|
|
woelen
Super Administrator
![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif)
Posts: 7998
Registered: 20-8-2005
Location: Netherlands
Member Is Offline
Mood: interested
|
|
Yes, this works. I have tried it myself and you can make pure HBr without formation of any bromine. The only drawback is that you need a large excess
of phosphoric acid, otherwise you need very high temperatures for driving off all HBr and that is hard on glass apparatus (glass and phosphoric acid
do not go together very well when the temperature gets high).
|
|