| Pages:
1
2 |
diddi
National Hazard
Posts: 723
Registered: 23-9-2014
Location: Victoria, Australia
Member Is Offline
Mood: Fluorescent
|
|
Bad elements from ebay again
i found another ebay seller like yaolihong2013 that sells fakes and rubbish elements. so avoid as with yaolihong. he has the same bullshit excuses and
refuses to refund even when clearly in the wrong. might even be the same people in both stores. i bought some Zn crystalline lumps and they were
shitty oxidised little melted pellets. no vacuum packaging. no crystalline.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/100-grams-High-Purity-99-999-Zinc-Z...
ebay had to intervene to get my refund.
happy collecting !
Beginning construction of periodic table display
|
|
|
j_sum1
Administrator
Posts: 6324
Registered: 4-10-2014
Location: At home
Member Is Offline
Mood: Most of the ducks are in a row
|
|
Well the pic sure is pretty. And it is nothing like what you received.
Hope you gave negative feedback and minimum stars.
|
|
|
Loptr
International Hazard
Posts: 1348
Registered: 20-5-2014
Location: USA
Member Is Offline
Mood: Grateful
|
|
Wow, that looks nothing like what is shown in the picture. I would be pissed if I were buying to because of how it looked. I have a quite a bit of
zinc and other metals that I don't care how they look, as long as they are of a certain purity. I can deal with a bit of oxidation.
"Question everything generally thought to be obvious." - Dieter Rams
|
|
|
diddi
National Hazard
Posts: 723
Registered: 23-9-2014
Location: Victoria, Australia
Member Is Offline
Mood: Fluorescent
|
|
its a case of ones purpose, as you say. i wanted for element display so i was prepared to pay a premium price (USD80 per kg) compared to rotometals
price for an ingot of 2.5 kg for chicken feed (which i already have). what irks me is that i actually messaged before i bought to see if i could get
a single 100gram lump, which of course i was assured was no problem. pffft
i know others who have been dudded by yaolihong2013 who has the same pics and replacement or fake items, including W powder sold as Ir, and believe it
or not i was sold Te as Li ffs. the seller told me that it was special Li that did not require oil or argon packaging.
it is hard to find nice elements at good prices, unfortunately, but i guess the fussier one is, the more one pays.
Beginning construction of periodic table display
|
|
|
DavidJR
National Hazard
Posts: 908
Registered: 1-1-2018
Location: Scotland
Member Is Offline
Mood: Tired
|
|
Quote: Originally posted by diddi  |
... believe it or not i was sold Te as Li ffs. the seller told me that it was special Li that did not require oil or argon packaging.
|
 Hilarious response. That's made my day.
|
|
|
Melgar
Anti-Spam Agent
Posts: 2004
Registered: 23-2-2010
Location: Connecticut
Member Is Offline
Mood: Estrified
|
|
I'll trade you! No Te, but quite a bit of Li. It's been exposed to the air a bit though, so I recommend melting it under inert gas first.
The first step in the process of learning something is admitting that you don't know it already.
I'm givin' the spam shields max power at full warp, but they just dinna have the power! We're gonna have to evacuate to new forum software!
|
|
|
diddi
National Hazard
Posts: 723
Registered: 23-9-2014
Location: Victoria, Australia
Member Is Offline
Mood: Fluorescent
|
|
not happy about 1 star it seems. LOL
Beginning construction of periodic table display
|
|
|
VSEPR_VOID
National Hazard
Posts: 719
Registered: 1-9-2017
Member Is Offline
Mood: Fullerenes
|
|
His English is rather poor
Within cells interlinked
Within cells interlinked
Within cells interlinked
|
|
|
j_sum1
Administrator
Posts: 6324
Registered: 4-10-2014
Location: At home
Member Is Offline
Mood: Most of the ducks are in a row
|
|
So what did you do?
Thanks for the cash and free product.
or
Enjoy 1 star. Get it right first time!
|
|
|
diddi
National Hazard
Posts: 723
Registered: 23-9-2014
Location: Victoria, Australia
Member Is Offline
Mood: Fluorescent
|
|
well ebay have already refunded me. so do i scam something from him and end up with more crappy stuff? i dont think ebay feedback can be altered
though?
Beginning construction of periodic table display
|
|
|
LearnedAmateur
National Hazard
Posts: 513
Registered: 30-3-2017
Location: Somewhere in the UK
Member Is Offline
Mood: Free Radical
|
|
I’ve got plenty of refunds from crappy/broken/undelivered items on eBay, if they’re willing to give you a full refund AND resend the item then
they’re not at risk of losing a significant percentage of money so it can hardly be considered a scam by any party involved.
Yes, the seller will send you a request for new feedback which will replace the old one but you cannot change it yourself. Not quite sure why you
can’t but I’ve been through the same thing before.
In chemistry, sometimes the solution is the problem.
It’s been a while, but I’m not dead! Updated 7/1/2020. Shout out to Aga, we got along well.
|
|
|
Deathunter88
National Hazard
Posts: 519
Registered: 20-2-2015
Location: Beijing, China
Member Is Offline
Mood: No Mood
|
|
| Quote: Originally posted by diddi | | well ebay have already refunded me. so do i scam something from him and end up with more crappy stuff? i dont think ebay feedback can be altered
though? |
I mean the zinc he did send you is still electrochemically pure, just not crystalline. That means it's still useful for say the generation of hydrogen
gas or making zinc compounds.
|
|
|
DavidJR
National Hazard
Posts: 908
Registered: 1-1-2018
Location: Scotland
Member Is Offline
Mood: Tired
|
|
I bought some selenium powder a while ago (from pickbestforyou on eBay) and have only just got round to trying to do anything with it. Pretty sure
what I have is not selenium though, as it's not doing any of the things selenium is supposed to. It doesn't even look like the mound of black powder
on the eBay listing - it's more of a pearlescent grey. I don't think it's the grey allotrope either since selenium is supposed to melt at 220C and
even hitting it with a blowtorch and melting the glass capillary tube it was in didn't melt the powder. I tried putting some in a stainless steel
spoon and heating with the blowtorch, first from below to see if I could melt it (nope) and then directly torching the powder to see if I could burn
it (nope).
Whatever it is, it's remarkably inert. I can't get it to react with or dissolve in anything.
edit:
Just thought to try mixing some of the powder with sodium hydroxide and heating with the torch again. Of course, the hydroxide melts readily and the
mixture bubbled. At first the bubbles were probably just water, but after that was gone it continued to bubble and as soon as the bubbles burst (and
hence the gas contacted the air) the gas burnt rapidly.
I'm thinking it might be silicon
[Edited on 28-5-2018 by DavidJR]
|
|
|
Melgar
Anti-Spam Agent
Posts: 2004
Registered: 23-2-2010
Location: Connecticut
Member Is Offline
Mood: Estrified
|
|
Yeah, I got some elemental selenium, both the round lumps, and the black glassy shards. I accidentally ordered twice, (quite a while ago) and have
extra. Anyone need any?
It burns, sort of like sulfur, but with white smoke that's really toxic to breathe. So definitely be careful.
The first step in the process of learning something is admitting that you don't know it already.
I'm givin' the spam shields max power at full warp, but they just dinna have the power! We're gonna have to evacuate to new forum software!
|
|
|
wg48
National Hazard
Posts: 821
Registered: 21-11-2015
Member Is Offline
Mood: No Mood
|
|
Received my order of 30g of Mo powder (300-500 mesh) from pickbestforyouon on ebay.
The powder is a grey colour with several mm sized pieces one of which is pill shaped. It feels light (low density). It does not dissolve 12% H2O2. It
does immediately and vigorously dissolve in 23% HCl to a colorless solution. On adding NaOH a white gelatinous precipitate forms which dissolves in
excess NaOH. I conclude it is not Mo, could be zinc powder.
I have waited almost 6 weeks for it to arrive from China. I guess they get away with fake elements because most buyers don’t test the items. At
least I will get my money back.
|
|
|
diddi
National Hazard
Posts: 723
Registered: 23-9-2014
Location: Victoria, Australia
Member Is Offline
Mood: Fluorescent
|
|
i bought some cheap clamps from pickbestforyou. they were ok for what i paid, but it is hard to fake a clamp. i only use reputable sellers for
elements as a rule, but as i said in OP, it did look very attractive.
as an update, the guy has pestered me for 3 months to change my feedback. he finally said he had made the refund and to check my paypal. pffft as
if he would suddenly not lie. sure enough - no refund.
selenium is quite pretty. i managed to get a custom cast 2kg ingot cracked into random sized shards of optical grade 5N Se a while back. it is
incredibly reflective and glossy black. very attractive as a display piece
Beginning construction of periodic table display
|
|
|
Cryolite.
Hazard to Others
Posts: 269
Registered: 28-6-2016
Location: CA
Member Is Offline
Mood: No Mood
|
|
Speaking of ebay sellers, has anyone had any experiences with huanshop2015 on ebay? I bought some molybdenum and niobium from him recently (it hasn't
arrived yet), and I'm wondering if I should worry about it being fake.
|
|
|
fusso
International Hazard
Posts: 1922
Registered: 23-6-2017
Location: 4 ∥ universes ahead of you
Member Is Offline
|
|
What's the probability of getting fake chemicals/elements from chinese ebay sellers? I'm afraid to be ripped off by them):
|
|
|
wg48
National Hazard
Posts: 821
Registered: 21-11-2015
Member Is Offline
Mood: No Mood
|
|
I bought some of these
They were very weak, the fingers snap off at the base. I only use pressed sheet steel ones now, they don't grip very well but they are strong and
cheap.
|
|
|
weilawei
Hazard to Others
Posts: 130
Registered: 3-12-2017
Member Is Offline
Mood: No Mood
|
|
I like the old Fisher brand Castaloy ones, and they're not all that much more. Pretty sure they'll outlive me.
|
|
|
XeonTheMGPony
International Hazard
Posts: 1640
Registered: 5-1-2016
Member Is Offline
Mood: No Mood
|
|
| Quote: Originally posted by wg48 | Received my order of 30g of Mo powder (300-500 mesh) from pickbestforyouon on ebay.
The powder is a grey colour with several mm sized pieces one of which is pill shaped. It feels light (low density). It does not dissolve 12% H2O2. It
does immediately and vigorously dissolve in 23% HCl to a colorless solution. On adding NaOH a white gelatinous precipitate forms which dissolves in
excess NaOH. I conclude it is not Mo, could be zinc powder.
I have waited almost 6 weeks for it to arrive from China. I guess they get away with fake elements because most buyers don’t test the items. At
least I will get my money back.
|
I like to ask about purity and tell them it is because I am running extensive tests on it for school. Seems they usually send real things when they
know it'll be run through some thing that will prove it is fake in an instant, even when I'm not!
So far it seems to have worked.
|
|
|
NeonPulse
Hazard to Others
Posts: 417
Registered: 29-6-2013
Location: The other end of the internet.
Member Is Offline
Mood: Isolated from Reality! For Real this time....
|
|
| Quote: Originally posted by wg48 | Received my order of 30g of Mo powder (300-500 mesh) from pickbestforyouon on ebay.
The powder is a grey colour with several mm sized pieces one of which is pill shaped. It feels light (low density). It does not dissolve 12% H2O2. It
does immediately and vigorously dissolve in 23% HCl to a colorless solution. On adding NaOH a white gelatinous precipitate forms which dissolves in
excess NaOH. I conclude it is not Mo, could be zinc powder.
I have waited almost 6 weeks for it to arrive from China. I guess they get away with fake elements because most buyers don’t test the items. At
least I will get my money back.
|
Maybe they ran out of Mo powder and switched it up. Late last year I bought the exact same thing from this selller and it checked out to be
Molybdenum. The powder was a dark grey nearly black and slowly dissolved into 31% HCl leaving a dark yellow greenish solution. Adding NaOH to that
gave a black precipitation. Pretty sure I got the real deal. I had also bought Co, Cu, Ti and B powders from them with no problems. I probably
won’t try my luck at eBay Ir powder though. Seems like others here have been ripped off with that. I guess it’s a roulette game.
|
|
|
fusso
International Hazard
Posts: 1922
Registered: 23-6-2017
Location: 4 ∥ universes ahead of you
Member Is Offline
|
|
| Quote: Originally posted by NeonPulse | | Late last year I bought the exact same thing from this selller and it checked out to be Molybdenum. The powder was a dark grey nearly black and
slowly dissolved into 31% HCl leaving a dark yellow greenish solution. Adding NaOH to that gave a black precipitation. Pretty sure I got the real
deal. |
How does Mo react with HCl?! Wiki didn't state that!?
[Edited on 15/06/18 by fusso]
|
|
|
diddi
National Hazard
Posts: 723
Registered: 23-9-2014
Location: Victoria, Australia
Member Is Offline
Mood: Fluorescent
|
|
ebay Ir is actually W
there was a guy selling cut up bullion of various PGMs so he may have Ir perhaps.
Beginning construction of periodic table display
|
|
|
wg48
National Hazard
Posts: 821
Registered: 21-11-2015
Member Is Offline
Mood: No Mood
|
|
| Quote: Originally posted by fusso | | Quote: Originally posted by NeonPulse | | Late last year I bought the exact same thing from this selller and it checked out to be Molybdenum. The powder was a dark grey nearly black and
slowly dissolved into 31% HCl leaving a dark yellow greenish solution. Adding NaOH to that gave a black precipitation. Pretty sure I got the real
deal. |
How does Mo react with HCl?! Wiki didn't state that!?
[Edited on 15/06/18 by fusso] |
"Molybdenum is soluble in nitric acid, concentrated sulfuric acid and aqua regia but not in hydrochloric acid, dilute sulfuric acid,
hydrofluoric acid or potassium hydroxide solution"
From:https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1002/3527600418.mb743998e0018
Edit:
Note: the above does not necessary contradict Neon’s observation as it may be referring to large (relative to a powder) pieces of Mo that may
dissolve so slowly that it is considered insoluble.
[Edited on 15-6-2018 by wg48]
|
|
|
| Pages:
1
2 |
![[*]](images/xpblue/default_icon.gif){kind=icon}
