Sciencemadness Discussion Board
Not logged in [Login ]
Go To Bottom

Printable Version  
Author: Subject: Going above temp on Haloform reaction Acetone and Bleach?
LD5050
Hazard to Others
***




Posts: 182
Registered: 16-1-2017
Member Is Offline

Mood: No Mood

[*] posted on 11-3-2017 at 20:27
Going above temp on Haloform reaction Acetone and Bleach?


I was making chloroform by the haloform reaction with acetone and bleach and I accidentally went over the 30c temp like a dummy kinda way over.... When I performed this reaction before the temp didn't rise so quickly and I was just able to throw in the freezer after adding the acetone. This time I did the same thing and came back a few min later and the bottles were super hot. My question is what happens when I go over that temp thresh hold? Do I just get a lower yield or do I get side products?
View user's profile View All Posts By User
j_sum1
Administrator
********




Posts: 6324
Registered: 4-10-2014
Location: At home
Member Is Offline

Mood: Most of the ducks are in a row

[*] posted on 11-3-2017 at 21:10


Both. Someone more knowledgable than me will be along to provide all the details. But in essence, chloroform reacts with NaOH; which is the byproduct of your bleach acetone reaction. This reaction is a lot slower at low temperatures.

Proceed as normal. But if your bottles became "hot", as you say, then it is likely that your yield is way down. See what you get and chalk this one up to experience.
View user's profile View All Posts By User
PirateDocBrown
National Hazard
****




Posts: 570
Registered: 27-11-2016
Location: Minnesota
Member Is Offline

Mood: No Mood

[*] posted on 12-3-2017 at 03:12


You will also evaporate off your product.

Start with your bleach ice cold, and you won't have this problem.

[Edited on 3/12/17 by PirateDocBrown]
View user's profile View All Posts By User
LD5050
Hazard to Others
***




Posts: 182
Registered: 16-1-2017
Member Is Offline

Mood: No Mood

[*] posted on 12-3-2017 at 06:04


Ya that what i did i put the bleach and the acetone in the freezer like every time before except this time it got really hot.
View user's profile View All Posts By User
PirateDocBrown
National Hazard
****




Posts: 570
Registered: 27-11-2016
Location: Minnesota
Member Is Offline

Mood: No Mood

[*] posted on 12-3-2017 at 18:56


Add it in portions, and cool down between.
View user's profile View All Posts By User
XeonTheMGPony
International Hazard
*****




Posts: 1640
Registered: 5-1-2016
Member Is Offline

Mood: No Mood

[*] posted on 14-3-2017 at 11:48


I'd do it with the calcium Hypochlorite method, IE Pool shock and aceton.

I found it to be a very easy to control reaction with very good yield.



Chloroform 1.JPG - 1.4MB
View user's profile View All Posts By User
Rhodanide
Hazard to Others
***




Posts: 348
Registered: 23-7-2015
Location: The 80s
Member Is Offline

Mood: That retro aesthetic

[*] posted on 16-3-2017 at 06:17


Quote: Originally posted by LD5050  
I was making chloroform by the haloform reaction with acetone and bleach and I accidentally went over the 30c temp like a dummy kinda way over.... When I performed this reaction before the temp didn't rise so quickly and I was just able to throw in the freezer after adding the acetone. This time I did the same thing and came back a few min later and the bottles were super hot. My question is what happens when I go over that temp thresh hold? Do I just get a lower yield or do I get side products?

Yes, it will boil the Chloroform off, quickly.
Actually, I have a video in which I do exactly that, here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFUzmINeZ0U

View user's profile View All Posts By User

  Go To Top