RogueRose
International Hazard
Posts: 1594
Registered: 16-6-2014
Member Is Offline
|
|
Vacuum filtration - fewer holes vs many holes in filter plate?
I'm planning on using an old plastic tub, about 1.75 gallons in size. It is kind of like the tubs that protein powder comes in - a really over-sized
mayonaise jar. The bottom seals well on another container that has a vacuum attachment/vent.
The question I have is whether putting 7 holes (maybe 1/4-3/8"), one centered and 6 evenly spaced in a ring 1/4 of the way from the edge of the
container. The other option is to drill lots of smaller holes all over the bottom, space them evenly as possible, but put maybe 50-80 1/8" holes.
Another option I was thinking was this tub can be filtered at a ~45 degree angle so the edge of the bottom of the tub would be the lowest point of the
vessel, allowing the fluids to accumulate at this point. I could put a number of holes around this area and attaching a filter material is actually
pretty easy, so that isn't difficult. I guess this would act kind of like a funnel in a way.
The liquid to be filtered has a viscosity close to water, +/- ~15% in "thickness" if that matters much.
Can anyone shed any light on the effect of the number of holes? I would think with vacuum less holes might allow for more "pull" at each hole vs
where gravity filtration - the more holes allows for more flow as all are even.
|
|
|
CRUSTY
Hazard to Others
Posts: 139
Registered: 5-6-2016
Location: Nearby
Member Is Offline
Mood: High-Order
|
|
I would imagine more smaller holes would be the better choice. If using larger holes, you run a higher risk of tearing filter paper and having a
non-uniform net filtration. Although smaller holes could limit the flow through the paper and the filter plate,I think it would likely be worth the
extra time spent per filtration run.
|
|
|
Sulaiman
International Hazard
Posts: 3697
Registered: 8-2-2015
Location: 3rd rock from the sun
Member Is Offline
|
|
For vacuum filtration I would definitely go for many small holes as wet paper is very weak
don't forget to leave the area around the edge of your paper with no holes so that the papers do not leak around the edges, something like 5% of
diameter.
|
|
|
Fulmen
International Hazard
Posts: 1718
Registered: 24-9-2005
Member Is Online
Mood: Bored
|
|
You need a large area exposed to vacuum. You cannot filter "sideways" through the paper, only the parts exposed to vacuum will pass any significant
amount of fluid through it.
I have on occasion used a disc of very fine plastic fabric under the paper in my Buchner-funnel, and it increases the output noticeably. Basically
something coarse and permeable that is thin enough to allow the paper to lie smooth around the edge.
We're not banging rocks together here. We know how to put a man back together.
|
|
|
careysub
International Hazard
Posts: 1339
Registered: 4-8-2014
Location: Coastal Sage Scrub Biome
Member Is Offline
Mood: Lowest quantum state
|
|
You might look into wire mesh products, like stainless steel wire mesh, or epoxy coated steel mesh:
http://www.mcmaster.com/#standard-mesh-filters/=13c8bir
http://www.mcmaster.com/#standard-mesh-filters/=13c8bya
http://www.mcmaster.com/#standard-mesh-filters/=13c8c40
http://www.mcmaster.com/#standard-mesh-filters/=13c8cc5
Dutch weave mesh could be used as the filter medium directly without paper:
http://www.mcmaster.com/#standard-mesh-filters/=13cf32v
Then there is Monel:
http://www.mcmaster.com/#standard-mesh-filters/=13c8d5j
And plastic mesh:
http://www.mcmaster.com/#standard-mesh-filters/=13c8dio
Shoot, I thought those would like directly to the item pages - they seemed to in my browser. But you can pick out the products from the survey page
easily enough.
[Edited on 19-7-2016 by careysub]
|
|
|
subsecret
Hazard to Others
Posts: 424
Registered: 8-6-2013
Location: NW SC, USA
Member Is Offline
Mood: Human Sadness - Julian Casablancas & the Voidz
|
|
I really wish more filtering products were available with mesh as a paper support. As careysub said, you could use it as a support or as the filter
directly. Strong and highly "perforated."
Fear is what you get when caution wasn't enough.
|
|
|
Sulaiman
International Hazard
Posts: 3697
Registered: 8-2-2015
Location: 3rd rock from the sun
Member Is Offline
|
|
sintered glass buchner funnels come in many capacities and porosities
e.g. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/350ml-G3-Filter-Funnel-Buchner-24-...
for diy, why limit to only circular papers, square or rectangular is more convenient;
Vogel has a nice description of a 'filter box'
|
|
|
![[*]](images/xpblue/default_icon.gif){kind=icon}
