Sciencemadness Discussion Board
Not logged in [Login ]
Go To Bottom

Printable Version  
Author: Subject: Would this be a good vacuum pump? Would I need to purchase anything else to make it work?
alking
Hazard to Others
***




Posts: 252
Registered: 11-3-2016
Member Is Offline

Mood: No Mood

[*] posted on 30-4-2016 at 12:17
Would this be a good vacuum pump? Would I need to purchase anything else to make it work?


As I expected to happen sooner or later I have killed my rotary vane vacuum pump so I need a replacement. Looking on ebay at diaphram pumps this seems to be a fairly inexpensive listing.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Jelenko-JelCraft-model-DAA-V132-E...

Assuming this works properly (description says it powers on and pulls a vacuum) would this be a good unit? Also I cannot tell from the pictures, but where exactly does the vacuum get pulled from? I am assuming I will need some kind of adaptors or something to hook up a hose to it, would anyone happen to know what exactly I would need or where I could find that out? I've googled the model number and all that comes up are people selling used ones, I can't find any decent description of the model or anything of use. If this is no good, or questionable, would anyone have any other recommendations? I'd like to spend no more than 200$ max, if I have to go over that for a decent pump I'd rather spend ~50-75$ on another disposable rotary pump.
View user's profile View All Posts By User
XeonTheMGPony
International Hazard
*****




Posts: 1640
Registered: 5-1-2016
Member Is Offline

Mood: No Mood

[*] posted on 30-4-2016 at 12:39


You'll need a well built scrubber when doing acids.
View user's profile View All Posts By User
Rosco Bodine
Banned





Posts: 6370
Registered: 29-9-2004
Member Is Offline

Mood: analytical

[*] posted on 30-4-2016 at 13:11


Savant gel pumps have replaceable PTFE diaphragms, valves, and piping and fittings

for example

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Savant-Gel-Pump-GP110-Gel-Vacuum-...
View user's profile View All Posts By User
XeonTheMGPony
International Hazard
*****




Posts: 1640
Registered: 5-1-2016
Member Is Offline

Mood: No Mood

[*] posted on 30-4-2016 at 13:24


there's the price scam so popular on ebay! (Look at the shipping price!)

Look at the chemglass pumps, pricey but apparently well worth it.
View user's profile View All Posts By User
alking
Hazard to Others
***




Posts: 252
Registered: 11-3-2016
Member Is Offline

Mood: No Mood

[*] posted on 30-4-2016 at 16:46


After doing more research it seems that I'll need a decent diaphragm pump to pull much under -25in/mg so I bought another rotary pump to tide me over for the time being. I'm still in the market, but diaphragms being so much more expensive I want to make sure I get one that will be capable of everything I need which I may or may not have to save up for.

That Savant has a nice price tag and seems to be of decent quality though (and shipping is < 50$ for me). Looking up the specs it says it pulls a max vacuum of 10 torr, but I don't understand how that translates to in/hg, could someone help explain this to me? Converting it directly google tells me is 0.393701 in/hg, but I'm used to measuring a vacuum in negative numbers for one and I doubt this only pulls -0.39in/hg. Is this a different kind of vacuum measurement or am I (google) doing the conversion wrong, what am I missing?
View user's profile View All Posts By User
XeonTheMGPony
International Hazard
*****




Posts: 1640
Registered: 5-1-2016
Member Is Offline

Mood: No Mood

[*] posted on 30-4-2016 at 17:09


same as inches of mercury

So 10 Torr = 10 mmHg or ruffly .39inches

Torr is a much higher resolution scale for vacuum
View user's profile View All Posts By User
yobbo II
National Hazard
****




Posts: 764
Registered: 28-3-2016
Member Is Offline

Mood: No Mood

[*] posted on 30-4-2016 at 17:47



Check this for getto

http://laserkids.sourceforge.net/eng_vpump.html
View user's profile View All Posts By User
Rosco Bodine
Banned





Posts: 6370
Registered: 29-9-2004
Member Is Offline

Mood: analytical

[*] posted on 30-4-2016 at 19:33


10 Torr is a pull down to a 1.3% atmosphere or .013 atm or about 0.2 psi or 29.5 inches mercury but that would be for a new unit and a used unit would probably do about half that, meaning 20 Torr which is still good for a chemical resistant pump.

If you need chemical resistance this would be good.

As for the shipping, it is a heavy cast aluminum, heavy duty item.

Savant gel pumps are high end, high priced stuff. I have two of them, one used and the other brand new.

http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/vacuum-converter-d_460.htm...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_JKd1gUNHw

https://www.labequipmentparts.com/labware/product.aspx?b=225...

this has come up before

http://www.sciencemadness.org/talk/viewthread.php?tid=23287&...

[Edited on 5/1/2016 by Rosco Bodine]
View user's profile View All Posts By User
alking
Hazard to Others
***




Posts: 252
Registered: 11-3-2016
Member Is Offline

Mood: No Mood

[*] posted on 30-4-2016 at 19:39


What exactly wears down over time that causes the vacuum to decrease? Is it anything serviceable that could be repaired, or worth repairing if so?
View user's profile View All Posts By User
Rosco Bodine
Banned





Posts: 6370
Registered: 29-9-2004
Member Is Offline

Mood: analytical

[*] posted on 30-4-2016 at 19:54


valve poppet seats but a valve and diaphragm kit is hugely expensive.

Some of the cheaper units may have polypropylene fittings and plumbing but mine are solid teflon and other fluoropolymer stuff all surfaces and the motors are German made, probably the whole pump or maybe Swiss made on the pump itself maybe I can't remember, but they are top shelf and you don't want to buy one new, grab your wallet.

They are fully rebuildable and you could cannibalize parts from several less than perfect working units to build one good one cheap.

They come with a free radio ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUV8BR3qf6s

<object width=640 height=480><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/MUV8BR3qf6s?version=3&autoplay=0&showinfo=1&modestbranding=1&controls=1&theme=dark&vq=hd720&am p;hl=en_US&rel=0"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/MUV8BR3qf6s?version=3&autoplay=0&showinfo=1&modestbranding=1&controls=1&theme=dark&vq=hd720& hl=en_US&rel=0" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width=640 height=480 allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true"></embed></object>


[Edited on 5/1/2016 by Rosco Bodine]
View user's profile View All Posts By User
prettypolymer
Harmless
*




Posts: 7
Registered: 16-3-2016
Member Is Offline

Mood: No Mood

[*] posted on 1-5-2016 at 12:02


If any of you would need a sturdy dual head diaphragm pump, drop me a line, i have plenty. They're all from KNF, so heavy duty german quality, easily servicable with very affordable spare parts.
View user's profile View All Posts By User

  Go To Top