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Good morning, because I would like to teach my son, who is 7 years old, the art of chemistry, I would like to create the labels to be glued on
reagents.
I had thought of something like this:
What do you think?
Tips and advice are welcome
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Quote: Originally posted by Blunotte  | Good morning, because I would like to teach my son, who is 7 years old, the art of chemistry, I would like to create the labels to be glued on
reagents.
I had thought of something like this:
What do you think?
Tips and advice are welcome
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That is not a bad start but I suggest getting rid of the hazard and precautionary statements. Not only is it not easily read, it takes ages to search
up like what H221 means and you don't want to have to search up that stuff when you look at a reagent bottle. Instead just delete the H and P
statements and actually right the hazard. (write Flammable Gas instead of H221). You might also consider adding the NFPA because I personally find
that it is useful because it gives you all the key information in one glance. Good start though.
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I have been dealing with this too lately. I have just been using sticky labels I bought at an office store.
How do you plan on creating the labels? Label paper and ink jet? I have noticed the labels on some bottles starting to bubble from being in my
cabinet.
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@Deathunter88
Here in Europe we don't use the NFPA 704: we use the Hazard symbol (like skulls and other). 
And yes, i know that the GHS hazard statement aren't easy to read, but the problem is that the safety phrases for each reagent are many, and the label
would become too large, and the bottles that I would use are rather small.
However, since I'm starting now to make the labels, I'll try to print them in both ways, and then I will post here again 
Tnx
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@Loptr
Many years ago I had a nice home lab, which I sold after was born my first child.
Now it's time to do it again, and some of the bottles of reagents that have remained still have the labels that I had prepared about 10 years ago.
I used laser printer labels, and have not had problems for many years
To create the labels I use Word, the program that I teach for many years.
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News on labels revision 2:
- Molar mass
- Solubility in water
And yes, it's difficult to understand hazard statement, but it's near to impossible put them in a so little space 
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| Quote: | | Here in Europe we don't use the NFPA 704: we use the Hazard symbol (like skulls and other). |
In Australia, we don't "officially" use the NFPA 704 hazard classification, however I still use it on my labels as I find it a very efficient way to
show hazards at a glance.
My labels have the following:
Molecular formula
Systematic Name
Concentration (If applicable)
Atomic Mass
MP and BP
Solubility in water
NFPA Diamond
Pictorial Hazard Symbols (Skulls, Hands being Dissolved, Things on fire etc.)
[Edit] It's great that you are teaching your son chemistry, I got introduced to it at around about that age as well.
[Edited on 4-4-2015 by TheAustralianScientist]
"The chemists are a strange class of mortals, impelled by an almost insane impulse to seek their pleasures amid smoke and
vapor, soot and flame, poisons and poverty; yet among all these evils I seem to live so sweetly that may I die if I were to change places with the
Persian king" - Johann Joachim Becher, 1635 to 1682.
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Argh, I had forgotten them. Now I have to find a space on the label where to write this information 
Ok, this is the second time. How can I say no?
I'll have to use an A4 label to contain all this information 
Tomorrow I will post the new version
Tnx
PS: It might be interesting to share these files with other forum users?
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Ok, labels revision 3:
Hazard statement removed, add BP + MP + NFPA 704
Please tell me if somebody are inetersted in these labels 
Tnx
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If you are meaning to offer to make these labels for sale... I for one, would be interested in purchasing them.
I have zero skills with Word, and would very much appreciate some pro looking labels for my storage containers. Perhaps 2" x 3" size???
I hope I understood your statement. "Please tell me if somebody are inetersted in these labels "
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I wish to offer these label FREE to the forum users (files ready to print), but if you need PRINTED labels, there are no problem to send what do you
need, when the labels will be done
Now, I need only some time for finish the work
If somebody want, can be write here the reagents, so I can make the relative label.
Tips are welcome.
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Argh, I think I need a long long time for finish this work
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That is very generous of you to offer the file(s).
The only suggestion I have would be to leave the percentage (%) field blank.
I believe many of us store chemicals in various concentrations, and having a blank field to fill in the appropriate (%) would be very handy.
In thinking about this for a few minutes, I am surprised there is not an existing system or program to make this easier for you do do.
Does anyone know if there is?
At any rate Blunotte, your efforts are commendable. Looking forward to seeing this work completed.
Thank You!
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Tnx Zombie
Ok, I will leave the (%) field empty, tnx
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The labels look nice, but some information on it is wrong:
NH3 (24%) does not boil at -33 C and a similar remark needs to be made about HCl (37%). These are solutions of the gases in water.
Another remark: As far as I know, HCl, HNO3, NH3, are not toxic. They are corrosive and hence you need the corrosive-sign, but the skull-sign is used
for systemic poisons (e.g. mercury and its salts, lead-salts, cyanides). For this reason, I like the diamond-sign better. It has ratings for health,
flammability, reactivity and has optionally a special sign (e.g. oxidizer, reacts with water). The health rating does not specify the reason, only a
severity (4 being most severe, think of cyanides, arsenic compounds).
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Hi Woelen
For NH3 or HCl, I prefer put in label the data for the gases, not the solutions, because concentration can be different.
Much of the information I found, including symbols, derived from Wikipedia or from sites like this: LINK
I know, the signs that are on the internet are often wrong, but I think it's much better for me to follow the signs that I can found, rather than
guessed them, do not you think?
But, if you help me, I can still change them, if you provide me good directions
Have a nice day
[Edited on 4-4-2015 by Blunotte]
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Here is a neat resource. They will sell custom labels, just tell them what chemical you are interested in.
They also have a few that you are free to print yourself. I don't immediately see useful property information on them, but it's a start for safety
information, definitely.
http://www.mysafetylabels.com/free-pdfs/ghs-labels.aspx
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Thanks for posting this Loptr. I saw it in the other label thread.
I myself never considered "real" labels until this thread started by Blunotte .
I really like the concept. Now the search begins for an appropriate label material.
The suggestions of dipping bottles in epoxy/polyester are right up my alley, as I have hundreds of gallons of each in stock.
That led to another thought... Clear heat shrink. The same material they use for sealing bottles.
I'm looking more into that at the moment.
This is a very helpful thread. Especially for newbies like me.
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@Loptr
Interesting...
Maybe I can make a PROGRAM for labels, not a ready label sheets, where it's possible change size, disposition and more (I make programs from 1982)...
I need to think how can I can to do, and first I need to find a free database where put the chemical info.
@ALL
Second: http://www.sciencelab.com/msdsList.php is a good resource for MSDS info?
This is the better place I found until now, but if you know a better site, please tell me
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It's cool how ideas grow on forums. Lov'in it!
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My school has a subscription to a chemical database that is used for management of our chemical stores. One of the features of the software provided
is the ability to print out labels. I think it is the software's most useful feature actually. If we mix up a class set of say 2 molar H2SO4 then it
spits out enough labels for all the bottles with the appropriate warnings for that concentration.
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Argh, I want it
For now I try to make this program in Excel + VisualBasic.
But the path is looong
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In all honesty, it' s not that good. But the labels are handy.
Now, the package that prepares all of iur risk assessments and archives them . That is good.
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Here are some labels I found on another thread that I then modified. I personally don't like the fact that the name is on the right and the specific
information is on the left so if someone who is good with word could flip the two. Anyways, I will post them for reference.
Attachment: Chemical Label.doc (50kB)
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NVM, I managed to use my horrible Micosoft Word skills to make it so that the chemical name would be on the left.
Attachment: Chemical Label 2.doc (45kB)
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