Deathunter88
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Nitric Acid that is Concentrated "Enough"
Super simple and easy question:
I have a bottle of nitric acid that I have titrated to be 13.5molar. That comes out to be around 63% nitric acid. My question is if it will be
concentrated enough more most nitrations, synthesis etc. If not then I plan to distill it and hope for the best. Do you think I could safely distill
it inside my well ventilated lab with a hose on the vacuum adapter leading outside?
Thanks.
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Do please be aware the azeotrope of HNO3 is about 68%. I suggest doing some research to find ways around this limit.
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I may not have explained myself very well, what I mean is that is it ok to use the 63% acid when "Concentrated Nitric Acid" is needed?
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Sorry, the answer really IS that you need to do more research.
There is a TON of information on nitration parameters and how to achieve desired concentrations available here and elsewhere- You had best consider
your question on a case by case basis, there is no hard and fast rule on what concentration is required. If you find description of a procedure that
merely says "concentrated nitric acid" without such information as specific gravity, %, degrees Baum- look further.
Depending on temperature and in some cases quantity of dehydrating agents such as sulfuric acid or Phosphorus pentoxide, 63% nitric acid could be used
to make various grades of nitrocellulose, mono or dinitrotoluenes, lower nitrated napthalenes, nitroglycerin, PETN. Won't be much good for many other
products such as TNT or RDX, although it would serve to synthesize hexamine dinitrate to be used as an RDX precursor.
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It depends on the specific reaction you want to do, which is what Bert's getting at.
68% should dissolve copper nicely, but that 32% water may well interfere horribly in one of those Dark Arcane OC reactions, whose name cannot be
uttered lest he appear, and explode.
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