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Rador Labs Challenge #2 - Chemical Conflagarations
After much delay on our part, our second challenge is finally being released! This challenge will be run very differently from the previous ones,
because it depends on YOUR vote! But first, read the rules – it's not as complicated as last time, but there are some things to go over.
In particular, do not submit anything in this thread. All submissions are to be emailed to the Rador Labs email (radorlabs
[at] gmail, we'll include a link in our profile). Feel free to ask questions or announce your entry here (but don't give any information about your
entry).
The submission phase will end March 6 0000 UTC and the voting phase will begin immediately after.
As before, there is a grand prize at the end for all donors! Good luck and happy combusting!
[Edited on 2-14-2015 by Rador Labs]
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I like it.
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So... One cannot use *any* purchased chemicals? Not just 'cannot use a purchased chemical as a final product'?
Good Idea! Main problem: My only camera is horrible. I guess I'll go for interesting color.
One more question, may the final result be a mix of chemicals?
Thanks!
TVC
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Slightly confused here as well, regarding the 'bought-ness' of the chemicals.
Do the chemicals need to be synthesised to be eleigible ?
If it were me, i'd drop that requirement and get a whole load more photos of great colours.
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Quote: Originally posted by aga  |
Do the chemicals need to be synthesised to be eleigible ?
If it were me, i'd drop that requirement and get a whole load more photos of great colours. |
Kind of agree but in reality it ain't going to make that much difference, I think. Flame colours are caused by emission spectra of elements, at least
mostly. Those tend to require simple compounds, complexity being destroyed by heat.
Complicated chemicals aren't likely to create the winner here.
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aga
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Erase this bit :
"... but the material must be synthesized or extracted, not bought."
Otherwise my potato extract might not win over the strontium nitrate i bought.
Edit
Seeing as it's a winner-by-vote, no restrictions really need to be made : let the vote decide.
[Edited on 14-2-2015 by aga]
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It's the difference between usung the strontium carbonate I have on hand and making something. And strontium chloride seems, well, not much of a
synthesis.
My wife just bought a nice new camera. I might think about this one.
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I like this one. Starting materials can be purchased, right?
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No, synthesis required.
Ingredients for copper: 1 supernova.
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Ok, big mistake, you can buy your starting materials, you just can't use them directly.
This wasn't my own idea, though.
At the end of the day, simulating atoms doesn't beat working with the real things...
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| Quote: Originally posted by Brain&Force | Ok, big mistake, you can buy your starting materials, you just can't use them directly.
This wasn't my own idea, though. |
Yes, and actually you can use them directly if you wish, anything goes for
this competition. Sorry about the confusion, we promise, there will be no more rule changing, and this will not turn into a crazy mess like the first
competition!
Honestly, I'm not even sure how that made it into the rules, because I thought that we tossed it out several days ago...
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We haven't received any submissions yet! Who's planning to submit?
At the end of the day, simulating atoms doesn't beat working with the real things...
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I've got some ideas, will likely submit something.
Are animated *.gif's considered to be a 'picture'?
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"Chemicals, chemicals... I need chemicals!" - George Hayduke
"Wubbalubba dub-dub!" - Rick Sanchez
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Let me confer with my colleagues on this one, I hadn't thought of that.
At the end of the day, simulating atoms doesn't beat working with the real things...
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We have talked and decided against animated gifs. Still gifs are allowed but be aware that they only support 256 colours so it may lower the quality
of you photo.
Also we have decided that videos will not be allowed for this competition but will likely be permitted for future ones.
Looking forward to seeing some flames!
"The chemists are a strange class of mortals, impelled by an almost insane impulse to seek their pleasures amid smoke and
vapor, soot and flame, poisons and poverty; yet among all these evils I seem to live so sweetly that may I die if I were to change places with the
Persian king" - Johann Joachim Becher, 1635 to 1682.
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Disallowing videos makes me sad. If you must stick to that, might I suggest: People submit pictures for the competition, then after voting is complete
based on photos alone people can upload videos to that thread for everyone's viewing pleasure. My strategy, were I to submit, would be to shoot a
video and submit a frame from that as a photo, so I'd hate to waste the footage! My current idea would also look much better as a video than a single
picture.
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I'd much rather upload videos too. I already started filming some flames yesterday, but didn't really get what I wanted.
We should do a collaborative video on flames like the one on fire without matches a few years back. Is anyone interested?
-The manipulator
We are all here on earth to help others; what on earth the others are here for I don't know. -W. H. Auden
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There is a strong probability that a future competition from us will involve video submissions, though on what subject I cannot divulge.
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| Quote: Originally posted by Molecular Manipulations | I'd much rather upload videos too. I already started filming some flames yesterday, but didn't really get what I wanted.
We should do a collaborative video on flames like the one on fire without matches a few years back. Is anyone interested? |
I am, send me a U2U/Skype message on this. I have my own idea for a collaborative video, let's see what we can come up with.
| Quote: Originally posted by MrHomeScientist | | Disallowing videos makes me sad. If you must stick to that, might I suggest: People submit pictures for the competition, then after voting is complete
based on photos alone people can upload videos to that thread for everyone's viewing pleasure. My strategy, were I to submit, would be to shoot a
video and submit a frame from that as a photo, so I'd hate to waste the footage! My current idea would also look much better as a video than a single
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Feel free to submit videos and other data, you'll just need to provide a still for the poll. We'll make a photo gallery and video playlist at the end
of the competition.
At the end of the day, simulating atoms doesn't beat working with the real things...
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Hopefully image quality isn't *too* big of a part, though I'm sure it'll be considered. Some can't afford a nice camera/iPhone with one.
I'm working on something interesting, this is a good idea for a competition.
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| Quote: Originally posted by The Volatile Chemist | Hopefully image quality isn't *too* big of a part, though I'm sure it'll be considered. Some can't afford a nice camera/iPhone with one.
I'm working on something interesting, this is a good idea for a competition. |
This was my concern; I'm not sure how clearly combustion can be photographed without fine control of shutter speed and exposure.... stills might also
miss some of the dynamics of the reaction. But then again it's not primarily a photography contest, so...
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As long as you can hit the 800×800 minimum, you're good. In the end it all comes down to the public vote!
[edit] by the way we haven't received a SINGLE submission...I understand it may take a while to work on the project, but don't forget about us 
[Edited on 18.2.2015 by Brain&Force]
At the end of the day, simulating atoms doesn't beat working with the real things...
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KaBUMP
Is everybody busy with other stuff or something?
We want to see some more fire! 
[Edited on 23-2-2015 by Jylliana]
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I actually am quite busy, but I would like to submit if I get the time. I have an idea that would be better suited to video than a photo, but we'll
see if it comes out with a decent picture.
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Hint to all who are entering: don't forget about long exposure
At the end of the day, simulating atoms doesn't beat working with the real things...
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