Sciencemadness Discussion Board
Not logged in [Login ]
Go To Bottom

Printable Version  
Author: Subject: pH
guy
National Hazard
****




Posts: 982
Registered: 14-4-2004
Location: California, USA
Member Is Offline

Mood: Catalytic!

[*] posted on 7-6-2006 at 15:15
pH


pH is derived from the nernst equation where Q is [H+]<sup>2</sup>/H<sub>2</sub> and H2 is at 1atm. Solving for pH, you get -log[H+]. The question is that, when measuring for pH, why don't you need 1 atm of H2 around?



View user's profile View All Posts By User
12AX7
Post Harlot
*****




Posts: 4803
Registered: 8-3-2005
Location: oscillating
Member Is Offline

Mood: informative

[*] posted on 7-6-2006 at 15:27


Erm, you're measuring hydrogen ions, not dissolved hydrogen?

H2O <--> H+ + OH- doesn't give up any hydrogen gas, so there's no need to measure it with a pressure of H2.

Tim




Seven Transistor Labs LLC http://seventransistorlabs.com/
Electronic Design, from Concept to Layout.
Need engineering assistance? Drop me a message!
View user's profile Visit user's homepage View All Posts By User This user has MSN Messenger
guy
National Hazard
****




Posts: 982
Registered: 14-4-2004
Location: California, USA
Member Is Offline

Mood: Catalytic!

[*] posted on 7-6-2006 at 15:40


2e + 2H+ <--> H2

E = (-0.059/2) log([H+]<sup>2</sup>/[H2]) when H2 = 1 atm

E = -0.059 log[H+]

pH = E/0.059 = -log[H+]

[Edited on 6/7/2006 by guy]




View user's profile View All Posts By User
12AX7
Post Harlot
*****




Posts: 4803
Registered: 8-3-2005
Location: oscillating
Member Is Offline

Mood: informative

[*] posted on 7-6-2006 at 16:31


Yeah, but I think that's redox, not pH. You're measuring two different things AFAIK.

Or is this about the thing where you put an electrode in, and it gets some voltage (compared to...something) corresponding to the pH? I remember something about microvolt amplifiers and a teensy little electrode probe thing...

Tim




Seven Transistor Labs LLC http://seventransistorlabs.com/
Electronic Design, from Concept to Layout.
Need engineering assistance? Drop me a message!
View user's profile Visit user's homepage View All Posts By User This user has MSN Messenger
Magpie
lab constructor
*****




Posts: 5939
Registered: 1-11-2003
Location: USA
Member Is Offline

Mood: Chemistry: the subtle science.

[*] posted on 8-6-2006 at 13:17


I was under the impression that pH is defined as "-log[H+]."

Doesn't the Nernst equation just set up the conditions necessary to obtain a standard voltage?




The single most important condition for a successful synthesis is good mixing - Nicodem
View user's profile View All Posts By User
guy
National Hazard
****




Posts: 982
Registered: 14-4-2004
Location: California, USA
Member Is Offline

Mood: Catalytic!

[*] posted on 8-6-2006 at 14:13


Yeah I figured it out



View user's profile View All Posts By User

  Go To Top