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NEED HELP WITH CHEMISTRY
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i am an amature chemist and have been interested in the field of chemistry all of my life. i have run into a dead end with one important field of
study and that is HOW TO CREATE CHEMICAL SYNTHESIS (i don't know waht it is actually called). for instance if you have benzene and want to turn it
into something else by adding, say a cyclopentane with a dimethyl side chain, how would i do it and what is this field of study called so i can look
it up and research more. i know it is based in reactions but how do i decide what reaction and what solvents to use.
any help will be greatly appreciated.
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Little_Ghost_again
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Organic chemistry would be a good start point! That is where you find out about thing like the Halloform reaction.
There are many many great books etc on this field of chemistry, Vogel is one that jumps straight to my mind, google books by I Vogel, he has written
widely from both a beginners level right up and beyond.
I also love the book basic principles of organic chemistry by John D Roberts, there is also two famous authors with the same surname (book not at hand
so cant remember) but its something like fisher.
Organic chemistry volume 1 by I.L Finar is also pretty good. But for practicle stuff VOGEL 3rd ed gets my vote!
Dont ask me, I only know enough to be dangerous
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Check out the forum library for Vogel and others. Lots of free resources there for organic chemistry/synthesis.
http://library.sciencemadness.org/library/index.html
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thanks for the answers, will be sure to check the books out. 
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and also just to kick me off. is there anyone who is a trained organic chemist who could answer the probem i am having at the moment. say i have a
compound and have designed a compound. how would i synthesise it. i know to first break it down into smaller compounds(retrosynthetic analysis) but
how would i add something like a hydroxy group?
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the substrate can affect the route. what is it you're trying to make or what is it your wanting to attach a hydroxyl group to?
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You seem to have an understanding of what is involved already. You will find that reading well structured books will help you to gain a good practical
knowledge of what you seek.
If you need to learn organic chemistry, then as far as I am aware this is the best general textbook available: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Organic-Chemistry-Jonathan-Clayden/d...
For planning organic syntheses, books such as the following may be useful: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Organic-Synthesis-The-Disconnection-...
There are a few similar books, and you will have to decide which one suits your needs most closely.
For practical chemistry techniques, Vogel's Textbook of Practical Organic Chemistry is still unrivalled, as far as I am aware.
For actual synthetic procedures, Organic Syntheses is a very good start and will give you a large range of reproducible techniques to effect changes
on a molecular level: http://www.orgsyn.org/
You can browse the pictures for ideas of transformations, or read the experimental sections for ideas of what is practically involved. Beyond that,
journal articles have the bulk of synthetic chemistry reactions, but they require subscriptions to access. You can find some examples posted in these
forums as attachments, however, and it will give you a flavour of how chemistry is currently presented.
[Edited on 1-12-2014 by forgottenpassword]
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aga
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Where are the peanuts ?
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Why post crap?
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Why so serious?
On topic: if you (the OP) describe your question in more detail than "I have a compound... how would i synthesize it" you are much more likely to get
useful replies.
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aga
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The OP obviously knows a lot more than is stated.
A lot more.
A Serious request for Chemistry help would be more along the lines of 'Where the hell do i start with OC' rather than 'How do i add a functional group
to benzene'
I would suspect a totally innocent Next question, like 'how do i add an amine fg to ...' if the OP had been answered with a recipe.
'Where are the peanuts' will tend to spring up wherever appropriate.
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Quote: Originally posted by aga  | The OP obviously knows a lot more than is stated.
A lot more.
A Serious request for Chemistry help would be more along the lines of 'Where the hell do i start with OC' rather than 'How do i add a functional group
to benzene'
I would suspect a totally innocent Next question, like 'how do i add an amine fg to ...' if the OP had been answered with a recipe.
'Where are the peanuts' will tend to spring up wherever appropriate. |
I got the same feeling. Something seems off about this question. OP asks about very very specific things and uses very specific chemistry words, and
in the same sentence basically asks, what is chemistry. I am confused.
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