plante1999
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Looking for nitrates
I'm currently looking for nitrates in Canada, I would need a too large investment to make my own from ammonia with a good yield. I will take the best
offer. I have a 45$ budget max on this. (Including shipping). I'm interested mostly by the three main nitrate, ammonium, sodium, and potassium. I'm
looking for an amount that will last me a long time. I hope to get about 2.5 Kg for 35$ + shipping.
It is not for pyrotechnics. I think mostly everyone here know I do not like pyrotechnics or general K3wl stuff. The nitrate will be used for chemistry
experiments, as always. I would like the nitrate to be properly labeled.
Thanks!
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Where exactly in Canada are you? I have a plentiful supply of AN down here, and would be happy to ship it up if you're anywhere on the general west
side of Canada.
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plante1999
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I'm in north-east canada, Quebec.
You can send me a U2U for price, if you still can.
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I would have a look round specialist garden and horticultural suppliers for a start.
Nitrates are the premier plant foliage boosters and coupled with potassium it can be a bit magical on a yellow looking peaky plant.
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plante1999
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Quote: Originally posted by ScienceSquirrel  | I would have a look round specialist garden and horticultural suppliers for a start.
Nitrates are the premier plant foliage boosters and coupled with potassium it can be a bit magical on a yellow looking peaky plant.
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I did, but nitrates are banned  , only urea is allowed. I checked every *******
package of fertilizer. When I asked about magnesium nitrate for foliage, I was suspected of blowing things up...
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Nitrates are not banned here, they are a restricted component of the explosives act, but not banned. They are somewhat controlled, but not as
difficult to obtain as you make it seem and not nearly as difficult to get as chlorates.
Out of curiosity- How exactly do you know you were suspected of blowing things up though?
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plante1999
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Quebec is not like the Canada in general you know  , the guy told me I was going
to blow something up...
If someone in Quebec city tell me he find it easy, I would probably not understand.
[Edited on 6-2-2013 by plante1999]
[Edited on 6-2-2013 by plante1999]
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plante1999
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I found a faillure in a Canadian supplier! It is not restricted to proper instituion ID as all other nitrate!
http://prolabscientific.com/Ammonium-Nitrate-p-21578.html
It would cost me 57$ with the shipping and everything tough.
[Edited on 6-2-2013 by plante1999]
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If it's the Quebec, rather than Canadian, laws that are making it tough to get nitrates, perhaps your next trip should include a drive through Ontario
or New Brunswick?
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Just to be on the safe side I would call them and make sure- they just redesigned their website and before it was redesigned the ammonium nitrate
carried the same "institutional purchase only" message as their KNO3 and friends. It might save the trouble or ordering and paying and then having
them call you and needing to refund and all that crap. I bought sodium last year from them and the site said 125g, when I received a 100g jar I was
rather pissed, I emailed them and the site was changed the next day but no offer for partial refund!! So, take their site with a grain of salt...
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I've found super cheap cold packs at the local dollar store that contain what looks to be fairly pure ammonium nitrate. They have probably around 200g
of prills and are less than $2 each. If you haven't tried looking there I would suggest it. They come in a blue box with one pack per box.
I've seen these both in my hometown and in Kingston where I'm going to school, so it seems they are fairly widespread.
(edit): I've also had good access to nitrates, chlorates and perchlorates but ordering them from the states and having my uncle bring them up to
Ontario when he comes to visit.
[Edited on 9-2-2013 by Erbium_Iodine_Carbon]
[Edited on 9-2-2013 by Erbium_Iodine_Carbon]
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@ Erbium_Iodine_Carbon
Beware of the dollar store cold-packs. Many did indeed contain nearly pure Ammonium Nitrate a few years ago, but they have been mostly replaced with
packs containing Urea, or a mix of Urea and Ammonium Nitrate. You can tell them apart by the fact that Ammonium Nitrate will give a solution with an
acidic pH (around 5), the urea solution will be a bit more neutral, so if you have a mixture of both, I have no idea how to tell them apart or
separate them.
Robert
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Rite Aid still carries ammonium nitrate cold packs in my area, they're $6 per pack, about 500g per pack. Not sure about purity, though. Proof is on
the label of the pack, and that when mixed with sodium hydroxide and a few drops of water the prills furiously emit ammonia.
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I have a thread somewhere about getting nitrates from cold packs. Not a very politically correct thing in Canada unfortunately
The ones now are full of dirt (called calcium ammonium nitrate). You can dissolve the AN, filter out the crap then use your aqueous solution.
Precipitating KNO3 with KCl is very effective.
Double, double toil and trouble; Fire burn, and caldron bubble
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Where'd the calcium go, to the slightly-soluble hydroxide?
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I think they use CaCO3 not CaNO3, so its all insoluble. Plus sand
Double, double toil and trouble; Fire burn, and caldron bubble
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This is what the cold packs I get look like. On thepackage it says "Contains Ammonium Nitrate, Water" or something like that. There is no mention of
urea, but I guess it could be present as an impurity. The bag is filled with small white prills. So far this is the best kind I've found. The ones
from Rexall pharmacy contain urea and the ones from Walmart are brown and gritty.
Hope this helps.
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The probleme have been solved! Thanks for everyone help.
I now have enough nitrate for a long time!
[Edited on 20-2-2013 by plante1999]
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Erbium_Iodine_Carbon
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Could you perhaps let us know what you got and where from? Nitrates are hard to come by in Canada and it would be great if you could share your
source.
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Don't know if you are still interested, but I think Duda Diesel sells to Canada as long as you don't buy any of their "hazardous chemicals". I bought
my KNO3 from there to make nitric acid. It's 99.8% pure at $4 a pound. Cheaper than cold packs.
http://www.dudadiesel.com/search.php?query=%22potassium+nitr...
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