Sciencemadness Discussion Board
Not logged in [Login ]
Go To Bottom

Printable Version  
 Pages:  1  
Author: Subject: Nitric Acid
oldirty
Harmless
*




Posts: 16
Registered: 6-4-2011
Member Is Offline

Mood: No Mood

[*] posted on 19-5-2011 at 06:38
Nitric Acid


Hello guys,
I'm wondering how to make nitric acid at home
I thought KNO3 + H2SO4 = KHSO4 + HNO3
Please tell me how dangerous and toxic,and complicated this process is.Is there any other ways to make nitric acid,not using precursors.
What I actually need is to dissolve mercury,only way I know is with nitric acid.
Tell me if there is others way to dissolve mercury,I heard mercury dissolves in concentrated H2SO4.
Thanks for help.
View user's profile View All Posts By User
ScienceSquirrel
International Hazard
*****




Posts: 1863
Registered: 18-6-2008
Location: Brittany
Member Is Offline

Mood: Dogs are pets but cats are little furry humans with four feet and self determination! :(

[*] posted on 19-5-2011 at 06:58


This is organic chemistry so this thread will almost certainly be moved.
Nitric acid is a walk in the park compared with mercury nitrate, which is soluble in water and extremely toxic.
It is also a Schedule 1 poison in the United Kingdom.
I would not do mercury chemistry at home. In my opinion it is far too dangerous.
Most professional laboratories only use mercury or mercury compounds if there is no alternative.
View user's profile View All Posts By User
oldirty
Harmless
*




Posts: 16
Registered: 6-4-2011
Member Is Offline

Mood: No Mood

[*] posted on 19-5-2011 at 07:19


I need something that can dissolve mercury liquid,you know one from old thermometers,sulfuric acid wouldn't work ? what conditions should be kept ?
Or anyone can recommend website that sells Hg salts preferably (no3),ones that sells without license.
Anyway is Hg salts precursors ?
P.s. sorry for English ..
View user's profile View All Posts By User
hissingnoise
International Hazard
*****




Posts: 3940
Registered: 26-12-2002
Member Is Offline

Mood: Pulverulescent!

[*] posted on 19-5-2011 at 07:49


Mercury is dissolved by oxidising acids so H<sub>2</sub>SO<sub>4</sub> must be hot, concentrated!
Even dilute (>5%) cold nitric acid will dissolve Hg to form the mercurous(I) compound but I would heed SS's timely warning if I were you - all mercury compounds are toxic, some even by contact!
If the fulminate is your target then extensive reading on the subject is pretty much essential . . .

[edit]
The reaction of Hg(NO<sub>3</sub>;)<sub>2</sub> with EtOH is extremely vigorous, producing copious quantities of toxic gasses!






[Edited on 19-5-2011 by hissingnoise]
View user's profile View All Posts By User
oldirty
Harmless
*




Posts: 16
Registered: 6-4-2011
Member Is Offline

Mood: No Mood

[*] posted on 19-5-2011 at 07:59


hissingnoise what you mean by hot?92-94% H2SO4 is enough ?
If >5% would work,I think something like pH minus would work?Or can you recommend anything else that would dissolve mercury that can be bought OTC?
I know how toxic mercury is..
View user's profile View All Posts By User
hissingnoise
International Hazard
*****




Posts: 3940
Registered: 26-12-2002
Member Is Offline

Mood: Pulverulescent!

[*] posted on 19-5-2011 at 08:11


Quote:
I know how toxic mercury is..

That's not the impression your posts give . . .

View user's profile View All Posts By User
oldirty
Harmless
*




Posts: 16
Registered: 6-4-2011
Member Is Offline

Mood: No Mood

[*] posted on 19-5-2011 at 08:26


Quote: Originally posted by hissingnoise  
Quote:
I know how toxic mercury is..

That's not the impression your posts give . . .



Just I know how to handle it and have conditions to work with it,so is there any products that sold OTC that contain nitric acid with % enough to dissolve mercury,all I can think of is pH-minus,but I can't find any that tells % of nitric acid ..
View user's profile View All Posts By User
ScienceSquirrel
International Hazard
*****




Posts: 1863
Registered: 18-6-2008
Location: Brittany
Member Is Offline

Mood: Dogs are pets but cats are little furry humans with four feet and self determination! :(

[*] posted on 19-5-2011 at 08:42


You are asking some naive questions that indicate a lack of the knowledge and experience needed to work with mercury compounds.
Handling mercury salts safely on a preparative scale requires a good fume hood and a decontamination and disposal strategy.
I would not handle mercury compounds in my shed or garden.
They are just too hazardous.
View user's profile View All Posts By User
oldirty
Harmless
*




Posts: 16
Registered: 6-4-2011
Member Is Offline

Mood: No Mood

[*] posted on 19-5-2011 at 08:50


Well I have fume hood.Yes I know my knowledge of chemistry is not best but,can you just tell me what products contains nitric acid that would dissolve mercury.Which sold OTC
View user's profile View All Posts By User
ScienceSquirrel
International Hazard
*****




Posts: 1863
Registered: 18-6-2008
Location: Brittany
Member Is Offline

Mood: Dogs are pets but cats are little furry humans with four feet and self determination! :(

[*] posted on 19-5-2011 at 09:12


Why do you want to dissolve mercury?
View user's profile View All Posts By User
oldirty
Harmless
*




Posts: 16
Registered: 6-4-2011
Member Is Offline

Mood: No Mood

[*] posted on 19-5-2011 at 09:17


For amalgation...
View user's profile View All Posts By User
ScienceSquirrel
International Hazard
*****




Posts: 1863
Registered: 18-6-2008
Location: Brittany
Member Is Offline

Mood: Dogs are pets but cats are little furry humans with four feet and self determination! :(

[*] posted on 19-5-2011 at 09:29


An amalgam of what?
View user's profile View All Posts By User
hissingnoise
International Hazard
*****




Posts: 3940
Registered: 26-12-2002
Member Is Offline

Mood: Pulverulescent!

[*] posted on 19-5-2011 at 10:07


So! You have the metal, but before using it to form the amalgam, you're going to convert it into one of its salts . . .
Er, WTF!


View user's profile View All Posts By User
Neil
National Hazard
****




Posts: 556
Registered: 19-3-2008
Member Is Offline

Mood: No Mood

[*] posted on 19-5-2011 at 10:17


You'd use a Mercury salt to coat copper for illegal gold mining. Of course you're totally uninterested in making an aluminum amalgam...
View user's profile View All Posts By User
oldirty
Harmless
*




Posts: 16
Registered: 6-4-2011
Member Is Offline

Mood: No Mood

[*] posted on 19-5-2011 at 10:57


Im interested in making aluminum amalgam nothing more.I need aluminum amalgam for some reduction.
View user's profile View All Posts By User
DJF90
International Hazard
*****




Posts: 2266
Registered: 15-12-2007
Location: At the bench
Member Is Offline

Mood: No Mood

[*] posted on 19-5-2011 at 11:04


Yea course you do. I suggest you give up before you end up poisoning either yourself or others. How about making some pretty copper sulfate crystals instead?
View user's profile View All Posts By User
oldirty
Harmless
*




Posts: 16
Registered: 6-4-2011
Member Is Offline

Mood: No Mood

[*] posted on 19-5-2011 at 11:19


Wow guys I can't believe you are so funny :D
Are you just trolling me or what ?
I worked before with Hg(II) dehydrated and now im out of it .. Anyone could really help instead of trolling me.
View user's profile View All Posts By User
DJF90
International Hazard
*****




Posts: 2266
Registered: 15-12-2007
Location: At the bench
Member Is Offline

Mood: No Mood

[*] posted on 19-5-2011 at 11:29


Because you need aluminium amalgam for what kind of reduction I wonder? You seem so clueless about whole situation that I dont think its really all that safe you playing with soluble mercury salts... perhaps you can prove otherwise.
View user's profile View All Posts By User
mr.crow
National Hazard
****




Posts: 884
Registered: 9-9-2009
Location: Canada
Member Is Offline

Mood: 0xFF

[*] posted on 19-5-2011 at 11:29


No, you're trolling us



Double, double toil and trouble; Fire burn, and caldron bubble
View user's profile View All Posts By User
hissingnoise
International Hazard
*****




Posts: 3940
Registered: 26-12-2002
Member Is Offline

Mood: Pulverulescent!

[*] posted on 19-5-2011 at 11:32


"Out of it?" Guess what? I'm tripping . . .

View user's profile View All Posts By User
oldirty
Harmless
*




Posts: 16
Registered: 6-4-2011
Member Is Offline

Mood: No Mood

[*] posted on 19-5-2011 at 11:36


P2NP
View user's profile View All Posts By User
hissingnoise
International Hazard
*****




Posts: 3940
Registered: 26-12-2002
Member Is Offline

Mood: Pulverulescent!

[*] posted on 19-5-2011 at 11:42


Whatever!
I'm neutral on cooks :D.
Haven't been into ecstasy in years . . .

View user's profile View All Posts By User
oldirty
Harmless
*




Posts: 16
Registered: 6-4-2011
Member Is Offline

Mood: No Mood

[*] posted on 19-5-2011 at 11:44


Comon guys help me stop trollin
View user's profile View All Posts By User
DJF90
International Hazard
*****




Posts: 2266
Registered: 15-12-2007
Location: At the bench
Member Is Offline

Mood: No Mood

[*] posted on 19-5-2011 at 11:51


Nope, not touching that one with a 20ft barge pole...
View user's profile View All Posts By User
hissingnoise
International Hazard
*****




Posts: 3940
Registered: 26-12-2002
Member Is Offline

Mood: Pulverulescent!

[*] posted on 19-5-2011 at 11:53


I'd say this is headed for the dreaded big D

View user's profile View All Posts By User
 Pages:  1  

  Go To Top