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[*] posted on 26-2-2025 at 11:03
Purple Oil....


In my organic chemistry class, we do a t-butylation of bipphenyl using ferric chloride and t-butyl chloride in dichloromethane. I'm trying to get away from using halogenated organic crap in the lab, so I thought I'd look into replacing this lab.

So I tried alkylating biphenyl directly with t-butanol and sulphuric acid (using acetic acid as a solvent, because it worked for some other alkylations). A literature search gave me lots of examples of zeolite-catalyzed alkylations, but I don't have a shelf full of zeolite to pick and choose from.

I got a frikkin purple oil. Purple. Yellow would not have at all suprised me, but purple?

Any ideas what could have given me the purple, dichloromethane-soluble oil?




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[*] posted on 26-2-2025 at 12:26


What does it look like by TLC? Usually when I get a weird color like that, it’s a strongly colored minor product and the bulk of the material is actually colorless or yellow. If you can get it to separate on TLC and see a separate non-purple spot that’s strongly UV active, then that’s probably the case. And then maybe you could column purify it and isolate the purple stuff.

Also, side note, we have a nice Friedel-Crafts lab where the students run an intramolecular acylation with phenylbutyric acid and methanesulfonic acid to make alpha-tetralone. It works really well and makes a pretty neat product.




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[*] posted on 28-2-2025 at 08:25


I've been meaning to run a TLC, but I've been doing too many things at once.

Could you send me the write-up for your tetralone experiment? I'm a bit restricted reagent-wise, but it would be interesting to see. (Too bad I can't use a similar procedure to make indenone- we have lots of cinnamic acid.)

I also tried t-butylation of salicylic acid according to this guy's method:
https://etheses.whiterose.ac.uk/id/eprint/14177/1/338622.pdf

I got a mixture of white crystals and an oil which eventually solidified. Trying to recrystallize it from isopropanol/water with a small amount of hydrochloric acid gave a nice colourless liquid. No frikking idea what that is.

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