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[*] posted on 29-11-2021 at 06:06
monoamide of terephtalic acid


How to make a monoamide of terephthalic from terephthalic acid?



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[*] posted on 29-11-2021 at 12:44
Theoretical attempt


Ok here is how I might try it. No clue whether it would properly work though... Still, it's fun to think about. :D





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[*] posted on 29-11-2021 at 13:04


To be fair though, I'm also not sure about the last step (purifying by fractional distillation, since the boiling point of these compounds will likely be even greater than 300oC).

Maybe this might work as a feasible purification method (?) :



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[*] posted on 30-11-2021 at 18:54


here's another idea:
activating with 1 mol equiv of N,N-Carbonyldiimidazole
Acid base extraction should be able to isolate the mono-activated form from non-activated and di-activated forms.
then the imidazole ester can be reacted with an amine to form an amide.

Details of N,N-Carbonyldiimidazole activation are in are in H.A. Staub et.al, "Azolides in Organic Synthesis and Biochemistry"
I don't have that book right now.

Michael Bijan Afghani

Edit: I'm not sure about the acid base extraction. The mono-imidazole would have one acid and one base group. I wonder if it would be a zwitterion at pH 7.

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[*] posted on 1-12-2021 at 05:58


You might, and this is a stretch, be able to produce a monoester by adding methanol slowly to prevent double esterification. Once esterified, you could form the amide. Honestly, you would have better luck starting from something like para-methylbenzoic acid. Amidify this first, and then oxidize the para methyl to the other carboxylic acid.



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[*] posted on 6-12-2021 at 02:41


Have you thought about preparing the monoamide from the diamide? The latter can be prepared from PET bottles and ammonia fumes. The later material is probably not very pure but probably adequate for this preparation. I have not tried it but I would treat the crude diamide with 1 molar equiv. of 50% sodium hydroxide in a stainless steel vesicle and heat until ammonia evolution ceases, leach with warm water (about 20ml per gram), filter off any unreacted diamide and crud, carefully acidify to pH 2-3 cool and filter of the free terephthalic acid/terephthalic monoamidic acid mixture. If you plan to carry out a Hoffmann rearrangement to aminobenzoic acid I would carry it out on this material directly and then make it strongly acid to ppt the terephthalic acid but keep the aminobenzoic acid in solution. Then add sodium acetate to ppt the aminobenzoic acid. Just an idea!
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