garphield
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Easy ways of obtaining/extracting/synthesizing melamine?
There have been a few posts on this forum about melamine, but I can’t seem to find anything detailing how to get it. The only thing I could find was
an old post saying that pure melamine was not available in any OTC products. It seems like either the hydrolysis of melamine resin/foam or the
condensation of cyanuric acid with ammonia at fairly high temperatures, but it doesn’t look like there are any available procedures outlining how to
do this online. I would try it myself, but I won’t have a lab until a few months from now, when school is over and I can get a job over the summer.
If there is a known way to easily make melamine from easily available products, it would probably be useful to mention it on the wiki or something.
The reason I am so interested in this is that I stumbled on an old thread here from a few years ago saying that you could make nitrogen dioxide from
melamine and calcium hypochlorite, but sadly this got derailed into a discussion about using a similar method on urea, which did not work. If there
was a widely known and practical way to get melamine, this might be looked into more.
The thread in question: https://www.sciencemadness.org/talk/viewthread.php?tid=48085...
This is my first real post here, hopefully it doesn’t break any rules. I did look here for a while to see if there had been any similar threads on
this topic before, and couldn’t find any. Thanks!
[Edited on 26-2-2020 by garphield]
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SWIM
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Do you need melamine, or melamine monomer?
Both are for sale on ebay.
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garphield
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There are a bunch of different substances called melamine. I am talking about the chemical melamine, C3N6H6. I just looked online a little bit and
could only find melamine resin for sale, and while you might be able to get the pure chemical from somewhere I haven’t looked, it doesn’t look
super easy to get. The substance discussed in the thread I linked was the chemical melamine, and the person who was talking about it said he could
only get it from lab suppliers.
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https://www.ebay.com/itm/Melamine-Monomer-108-78-1-C-H-N-Pow...
https://www.ebay.com/itm/99-8-Melamine-108-78-1-C3H6N6-500g/...
Easy to find: you just have to search for melamine on eBay and then filter the results to “Business & Industrial” -> “Healthcare, Lab,
and Dental” in order to get rid of all the dinnerware that crowds the results otherwise.
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garphield
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Thanks, I don’t have much experience with ebay lol.
I’d still like to try getting melamine from melamine resin and trying to reproduce the nitrogen dioxide/nitric acid synthesis from that thread over
the summer, as it would be really nice if there was a way to easily make nitrates from just melamine resin and calcium hypochlorite now that everyone
is trying to ban nitrates. Maybe I’ll update this when I get the chance to try it out in a few months.
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