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Practical synthesis using basic equipment
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which practical synthesis can be done using basic or kitchen equipment?
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It depends what you are trying to achieve. Is this for education, entertainment are practicing techniques? The list is about endless. You could try
soap, ethanol, remove a deposit, etching, ect.
Come back with some more detail around what you are trying to do.
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Quote: Originally posted by B(a)P  | It depends what you are trying to achieve. Is this for education, entertainment are practicing techniques? The list is about endless. You could try
soap, ethanol, remove a deposit, etching, ect.
Come back with some more detail around what you are trying to do. |
Hello,
i might be interesting in microdosing related stuff in the sense some of these substances are not psychoactive... i guess this kind of topic can be
discussed here...
can someone describe a few basic pratical synthesis that can be done perfectly using basic equipment?
for example if you have one substance and need to mix it with other substance to form one compound, what techniques can be used?
Thank you
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Abromination
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| Quote: Originally posted by Optimum | | Quote: Originally posted by B(a)P | It depends what you are trying to achieve. Is this for education, entertainment are practicing techniques? The list is about endless. You could try
soap, ethanol, remove a deposit, etching, ect.
Come back with some more detail around what you are trying to do. |
Hello,
i might be interesting in microdosing related stuff in the sense some of these substances are not psychoactive... i guess this kind of topic can be
discussed here...
can someone describe a few basic pratical synthesis that can be done perfectly using basic equipment?
for example if you have one substance and need to mix it with other substance to form one compound, what techniques can be used?
Thank you |
Its practically impossible to ever do a synthesis perfectly, especially in an amateur setting and even more so with kitchen supplies. Even if you
managed to use perfectly stoichiometric amounts of your reagents, the technical or kitchen grade chemicals would have significant amounts of
impurities. With kitchen materials, it is also rather difficult to remove these impurities, other then recrystallization. Instead of pursuing such a
feat, have fun with some basic metal chemistry without an extreme regard for purity.
List of materials made by ScienceMadness.org users:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nmJ8uq-h4IkXPxD5svnT...
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Elements Collected: H, Li, B, C, N, O, Mg, Al, Si, P, S, Fe, Ni, Cu, Zn, Ag, I, Au, Pb, Bi, Am
Last Acquired: B
Next: Na
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Optimum
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| Quote: Originally posted by Abromination | | Quote: Originally posted by Optimum | | Quote: Originally posted by B(a)P | It depends what you are trying to achieve. Is this for education, entertainment are practicing techniques? The list is about endless. You could try
soap, ethanol, remove a deposit, etching, ect.
Come back with some more detail around what you are trying to do. |
Hello,
i might be interesting in microdosing related stuff in the sense some of these substances are not psychoactive... i guess this kind of topic can be
discussed here...
can someone describe a few basic pratical synthesis that can be done perfectly using basic equipment?
for example if you have one substance and need to mix it with other substance to form one compound, what techniques can be used?
Thank you |
Its practically impossible to ever do a synthesis perfectly, especially in an amateur setting and even more so with kitchen supplies. Even if you
managed to use perfectly stoichiometric amounts of your reagents, the technical or kitchen grade chemicals would have significant amounts of
impurities. With kitchen materials, it is also rather difficult to remove these impurities, other then recrystallization. Instead of pursuing such a
feat, have fun with some basic metal chemistry without an extreme regard for purity. |
can you tell more about amateur settings? do you refer to amateur labs?
can you tell more about these? with right knowledge its possible to produce something decent in amateur setting? or it does not depend on the
knowlegde but on the settings itself such as equipment?
what about basic equipment?
can you refer some useful synth using basic equipment?
Thank you
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Abromination
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First of all, if it get your meaning by “mircodosing,” don’t. It is a very easy thing to mess up, impurities in your products can cause serious
damage to your body over time or poison you acutely. This goes back to what I was saying about purity. If you have taken a basic chemistry class, you
should know about this and why it is not good to get a hundred percent of the theoretical yield. You cant do chemistry perfectly, even if you are
perfect.
Back to equipment, you were speaking of kitchen equipment, so I talked in terms of that. In terms of amateur equipment, think at the level of or
higher then that of a high school chemistry class. For most of us it is well above, as I haven’t seen a high school lab equipped with jointed glass.
Even with good equipment, you can’t do a synthesis perfectly. I wont get into specifics about the equipment because if you have a true interest in
chemistry, you would find it out yourself.
List of materials made by ScienceMadness.org users:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nmJ8uq-h4IkXPxD5svnT...
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Elements Collected: H, Li, B, C, N, O, Mg, Al, Si, P, S, Fe, Ni, Cu, Zn, Ag, I, Au, Pb, Bi, Am
Last Acquired: B
Next: Na
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Optimum
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| Quote: Originally posted by Abromination | | Quote: Originally posted by Optimum | | Quote: Originally posted by B(a)P | It depends what you are trying to achieve. Is this for education, entertainment are practicing techniques? The list is about endless. You could try
soap, ethanol, remove a deposit, etching, ect.
Come back with some more detail around what you are trying to do. |
Hello,
i might be interesting in microdosing related stuff in the sense some of these substances are not psychoactive... i guess this kind of topic can be
discussed here...
can someone describe a few basic pratical synthesis that can be done perfectly using basic equipment?
for example if you have one substance and need to mix it with other substance to form one compound, what techniques can be used?
Thank you |
Its practically impossible to ever do a synthesis perfectly, especially in an amateur setting and even more so with kitchen supplies. Even if you
managed to use perfectly stoichiometric amounts of your reagents, the technical or kitchen grade chemicals would have significant amounts of
impurities. With kitchen materials, it is also rather difficult to remove these impurities, other then recrystallization. Instead of pursuing such a
feat, have fun with some basic metal chemistry without an extreme regard for purity. |
is recrystallization a good technique? or there is best technique?
| Quote: Originally posted by Abromination | First of all, if it get your meaning by “mircodosing,” don’t. It is a very easy thing to mess up, impurities in your products can cause serious
damage to your body over time or poison you acutely. This goes back to what I was saying about purity. If you have taken a basic chemistry class, you
should know about this and why it is not good to get a hundred percent of the theoretical yield. You cant do chemistry perfectly, even if you are
perfect.
Back to equipment, you were speaking of kitchen equipment, so I talked in terms of that. In terms of amateur equipment, think at the level of or
higher then that of a high school chemistry class. For most of us it is well above, as I haven’t seen a high school lab equipped with jointed glass.
Even with good equipment, you can’t do a synthesis perfectly. I wont get into specifics about the equipment because if you have a true interest in
chemistry, you would find it out yourself. |
want to reformulate the question,
what equipment contain an amateur chemistry "kit"?
ive seen people using basic techniques like using something with lower PH and hot water to mix two compounds, can you tell about others? can you tell
about equipment to do such things or other techniques?
Thank you
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There is no single "best" separation technique. However, recrystallisation often works very well and it is a low-effort and easily scalable process.
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I seriously think you need to invest in time learning some basics, not to sound crass, but it seems like you came across some online cookery site and
shouted yehaw!
Go into the library here and you will find some basic lab procedure books
Go online, look at pictures of glass wear, or even in the lab build thread here on this site.
What is best? Totally depends on what you are doing, it will influence what glass wear you buy, what tools you will need and at what level of accuracy
For you, if you plan to consume it you will want very high resolution measuring tools, and quality analysis tools. For me I delve into energetics, a
lot more forgiving then biochem of the body!
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Same meaningless question a couple of other users ask…
Trolling can sometimes be fun but I dont get the kick you get from trolling the way you are.
If you are not trolling let me give you two answers:
- Synthesis of carbon dioxyde:
Take a drinking glass. Fill with water. Dump a few spoons of sodium bicarbonate. Heat to 60 degrees.
There you go, you just synthed CO2 and sodium carbonate.
- Nitroglycerin
http://www.sciencemadness.org/talk/viewthread.php?tid=949
There you go, 27 pages and if I remember correctly among those 27 pages someone uses a coffee pot.
I hope you see there is a world of differences between those two.
In this light, do you understand how fucking silly and annoying your questionS are ?
The spirit of adventure was upon me. Having nitric acid and copper, I had only to learn what the words 'act upon' meant. - Ira Remsen
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