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[*] posted on 12-8-2019 at 12:08
Looking for Dyes


I am looking for the following dye solutions:

Safranine (CAS# 477-73-6) 0.10 mM
Resazurin (CAS# 62758-13-8) 0.10 mM
Phenanthrenequinone (CAS# 84-11-7) 4.80 mM
Erioglaucine (CAS# 3844-45-9) 0.10 mM
Tetrazolium chloride (CAS# 298-96-4) 1.00 mM

This is to experiment with variations in the classic Blue Bottle demonstration. I found a nice paper (thanks to Corrosive Joeseph for the full text) that I'd like to replicate (attached here for reference). I need either these spcific solutions or the solid dyes, probably only a gram of each.

The paper also uses Benzoin (CAS# 119-53-9) as the reductant; I'd like to try this with the standard dextrose first, but if that doesn't work I'd need a source for benzoin as well.

Anyone have any suppliers that have these dyes? Or does anyone have a tiny amount they'd be willing to sell me?

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[*] posted on 12-8-2019 at 16:55


Ebay UK has three of your listed dyes in addition to Methylene blue and Indigo carmine.

Yes that is an interesting paper.




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[*] posted on 12-8-2019 at 21:49


Methylene blue plus glucose (dextrose) is interesting, I had to demonstrate to all of my family - not impressed.
I first came across the reaction after a little research
because I bought six old Thunberg tubes via eBay,
- they were weird, and most importantly, cheap.

I also liked to observe the surface layer, just a thin layer of blue where oxygen can diffuse into the glucose solution.




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[*] posted on 13-8-2019 at 00:13


benzoin can be easly made by the condensation of benzaldehyde using thiamine (vitamin B1) as the catalyst (instead of HCN)




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[*] posted on 26-8-2019 at 08:03


Thanks for Carbon8 for the safranine! If anyone knows of any others from my list, let me know. I couldn't find any of them on eBay UK back when wg48temp9 posted, for some reason.
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[*] posted on 26-8-2019 at 10:05


Quote: Originally posted by MrHomeScientist  
Thanks for Carbon8 for the safranine! If anyone knows of any others from my list, let me know. I couldn't find any of them on eBay UK back when wg48temp9 posted, for some reason.


In case I am going mad I checked again and found only two this time from your list but I did not spend much time on it. One trick is search with alternative names for them. See the links below

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Instant-Sunshine-Brilliant-Blue-F...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Microbiological-stains-Safranine-...

and if you want methylene blue for the orginal blue bottle experiment
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Methylene-Blue-BP73-ACS-C-I-52015...
I paid about half of that price for just 5g.




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