vmelkon
National Hazard
Posts: 669
Registered: 25-11-2011
Location: Canada
Member Is Offline
Mood: autoerotic asphyxiation
|
|
Source of Zinc found
I collected a few of the spark wheels from lighters (the butane kind, disposable lighters).
Like this one.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lighter#/media/File:White_ligh...
I think the spark wheel is partially made of zinc.
I was able to melt it easily. It is clearly not aluminium.
Signature ==== Is this my youtube page? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tA5PYtul5aU
We must attach the electrodes of knowledge to the nipples of ignorance and give a few good jolts.
Yes my evolutionary friends. We are all homos here. |
|
|
Felab
Hazard to Self
Posts: 76
Registered: 9-11-2018
Member Is Offline
Mood: :dooM
|
|
I usually get mine from Zn-C batteries. I think it's a lot cheaper.
|
|
|
MrHomeScientist
International Hazard
Posts: 1806
Registered: 24-10-2010
Location: Flerovium
Member Is Offline
Mood: No Mood
|
|
My preferred source is boat anodes from West Marine. They come in all shapes and sizes, so you can get whatever amount you need!
|
|
|
RedDwarf
Hazard to Others
Posts: 166
Registered: 16-2-2019
Location: UK (North West)
Member Is Offline
Mood: Variable
|
|
Zinc flashing for roofs (NOT zinc flashing from roofs!)
|
|
|
Sulaiman
International Hazard
Posts: 3695
Registered: 8-2-2015
Location: 3rd rock from the sun
Member Is Offline
|
|
6V lantern batteries have four pure zinc cups of about 18g each.
(the zinc must be very pure to prevent premature internal corrosion)
You also get MnO2 with carbon paste, and four carbon rods,
and a great big mess - but you gotta do it at least once.
via eBay I can get 99.9% zinc with p&p, 100g for £5 or 1kg for £22.
I suspect that most ex-product sources of zinc will be alloys of zinc,
for manufacturing ease, castability, durability etc.
CAUTION : Hobby Chemist, not Professional or even Amateur
|
|
|
Morgan
International Hazard
Posts: 1694
Registered: 28-12-2010
Member Is Offline
Mood: No Mood
|
|
I bought a zinc sacrificial anode for a boat that was shaped like giant washer, the two halves held together by two screws, about 20 centimeters in
diameter and 5 centimeters thick.
As an aside, this trend on zinc anodes for boats ....
Not zinc
"In recent years cadmium in zinc has become an environmental concern, leading to a movement in the direction of aluminum anodes. Such anodes are
effective even for protecting aluminum components — lower end cases, for example — because the aluminum used in the anode is a more anodic alloy.
Aluminum alloy anodes are almost certainly to become more common. It has not happened already only because the cost of aluminum anodes has been higher
than zinc without any discernable benefit to the boatowner. Today aluminum is actually cheaper than zinc. In addition, aluminum anodes tend to last
longer, they work better than zinc in brackish water (and maybe in salt water as well) and they appear to be better for the environment. When making
the switch from zinc to aluminum, ALL of your anodes must be aluminum. This can be a problem in some locales as many local marine suppliers still do
not stock a wide selection of aluminum anodes. That will eventually change."
"In fresh water, magnesium anodes protect underwater metals better, particularly underwater aluminum. However, magnesium is a good choice for
freshwater only. If any of your boating is also in brackish or salt water, fit aluminum anodes."
http://www.boatus.com/boattech/casey/sacrificial-zincs.asp
|
|
|
fusso
International Hazard
Posts: 1922
Registered: 23-6-2017
Location: 4 ∥ universes ahead of you
Member Is Offline
|
|
Quote: Originally posted by Morgan  | | In recent years cadmium in zinc has become an environmental concern, leading to a movement in the direction of aluminum anodes.
|
How much Cd is in the Zn anodes? Is it worth to extract the Cd?
|
|
|
Sulaiman
International Hazard
Posts: 3695
Registered: 8-2-2015
Location: 3rd rock from the sun
Member Is Offline
|
|
If you are desperate for cadmium and zinc is your only source, then YES.
other scrap sources are probably more productive,
but cadmium wet chemistry is as atractive as lead chemistry ... waste handling.
or you can get 9oz. 99.95% cadmium via eBay USA for <£10
===============================================
I have enjoyed recovering gold from scrap,
and the zinc cans, carbon rods and manganese dioxide from a lantern battery have all been useful for various chemistry experiments,
but
because I am lazy, and can afford it, I like to buy small samples of pure metals, (and non-metals)
this allows me to make known 'pure' reagents/reactants when required.
100g samples from China usually cost around £5 with p&p to UK,
even though I have not really used about half of my metal samples,
they have a long shelf-life and are always available for use, or just to look at, or examine.
Small additions to a kind of working element collection.
CAUTION : Hobby Chemist, not Professional or even Amateur
|
|
|
Morgan
International Hazard
Posts: 1694
Registered: 28-12-2010
Member Is Offline
Mood: No Mood
|
|
I don't think the cadmium level in zinc anodes is anything but modest, probably approaching 1% at best from what I read but perhaps hundreds of boats
docked at a marina for example makes it of concern?
As an aside ...
If you like twists and turns of electrochemistry/street smarts, there's these delightful ifs, ands, or buts, on deciding which sacrificial anode to
use on boats for different occasions and things that can go wrong in certain scenarios. Interestingly one method, they add gallium and zinc to
aluminum anodes to block the protective oxide layer pure aluminum forms.
https://www.boatingmag.com/how-to/choosing-right-sacrificial...
This is one of the more unusual sacrifishal anodes out there.
https://www.westmarine.com/buy/martyr--clamp-on-grouper-anod...
[Edited on 2-5-2019 by Morgan]
|
|
|
RogueRose
International Hazard
Posts: 1593
Registered: 16-6-2014
Member Is Offline
|
|
If cadmium is worth recovering, I'd give it a shot as I have about as much as I can handle in the form of NICd batteries. It would probably be a lot
easier to process it if the batteries could be shredded or chopped up somewhat then try to dissolve the Cd and Ni w/o too much Fe (which might be
stainless I think) being dissolved into the solution. Then maybe electroplate it out of the acid solution? That should give some pretty pure Cd.
For those wondering where to find these, you can usually find old batteries for free, sometimes by the bucket load or cooler full (I saw a 32 gallon
cooler full of old dead NiCd 18V batteries from a building/housing contractor). Another source might be some junk yards b/c I think some very early
hybrids used them as teir battery pack, then they went to NiMH then Lithium.
|
|
|
zed
International Hazard
Posts: 2283
Registered: 6-9-2008
Location: Great State of Jefferson, City of Portland
Member Is Offline
Mood: Semi-repentant Sith Lord
|
|
Zinc?
Current U.S. Pennies are 97.5% Zinc. Copper plated Zinc, they are.
|
|
|
vmelkon
National Hazard
Posts: 669
Registered: 25-11-2011
Location: Canada
Member Is Offline
Mood: autoerotic asphyxiation
|
|
I collected a lot of those pennies since some come into the USA but pennies have been eliminated in Canada for a few years now.
I haven't seen any other sources of zinc in Canada.
The lighters that I mentioned can be found in the streets, on the grounds, in the parks. They are free.
Signature ==== Is this my youtube page? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tA5PYtul5aU
We must attach the electrodes of knowledge to the nipples of ignorance and give a few good jolts.
Yes my evolutionary friends. We are all homos here. |
|
|
Morgan
International Hazard
Posts: 1694
Registered: 28-12-2010
Member Is Offline
Mood: No Mood
|
|
What about those zinc die cast conduit fittings/EMT fittings, you can buy a small bag of them for cheap in the U.S.? Not nearly as cheap as pennies
but a source if desperate. Don't know if they are pure zInc though.
The little set screw and sometimes the nut are steel or something magnetic something like this particular 5 pack. Some come with a zinc nut, I think
I've seen both that is.
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Halex-3-4-in-Electrical-Metallic...
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Halex-3-4-in-Electrical-Metallic...
[Edited on 4-5-2019 by Morgan]
|
|
|
egret
Harmless
Posts: 20
Registered: 22-2-2018
Member Is Offline
Mood: No Mood
|
|
The zinc sheets for roofing can be a source of zinc.
|
|
|
![[*]](images/xpblue/default_icon.gif){kind=icon}
