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[*] posted on 23-7-2010 at 14:15
hard time reading synthesis instructions



I have a hard time reading and putting into practice the first few things in this set up- I need a few confusing points unveiled:
1) ACN and PhosBuffer in 1:1 ratio, is that the molarity 1:1 or the volumes
2) I know salts are measured in equivalents, but I don't know how to read this at all.
3) How much total of Fremy's salt should there be in the ACN/Buffered solution?


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[*] posted on 23-7-2010 at 22:45


really no one can help with this? is the paper badly written? it's from a patent.
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[*] posted on 24-7-2010 at 02:21


If you can't understand it, should you be attempting it?

Also, there's probably some other information that's not being included, perhaps because it is a patent.




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[*] posted on 24-7-2010 at 10:49


Quote: Originally posted by psychokinetic  
If you can't understand it, should you be attempting it?
e it is a patent.


I have no started it until I ask for more experienced chemists their opinions. I've done more basic reactions, but I have a hard time deciphering the beginning parts. Also patents have to be more detailed and more reproducible than published papers.
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[*] posted on 24-7-2010 at 16:40


They are using HE to synthesize HE? Is that novel?
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[*] posted on 24-7-2010 at 17:18


Quote: Originally posted by Paddywhacker  
They are using HE to synthesize HE? Is that novel?
No it wouldn't be, but HE is Hydroethidine, not Hyroxyethidium.

The poster forgot to mention that it's 7223864.

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[*] posted on 25-7-2010 at 00:00


unless otherwise indicated 1:1 should refer to weights as opposed to equivalents or moles. It seems to be an arcane substance used for detecting superoxides in cells. Now if you could turn that tertiary ethylamino group into an ether bridge you might be onto something interesting in the way of intermediates.

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[*] posted on 25-7-2010 at 16:51


Quote: Originally posted by andre178  
Also patents have to be more detailed and more reproducible than published papers.


You'd think, but sometimes there's a lot of ambiguity to stop people stealing from patents. I'd rather read published papers :P




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