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Sauron
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Adios
I am ceasing to post here.
The environment on the forum has become unendurable for me.
I have infoirmed "management" of my reasons.
Those of you who have my email address can reach me there, others by PM. I have not yet taken the step of resigning completely, but it may come to
that.
Best wishes to all but a few, and confusion to them.
Sic gorgeamus a los subjectatus nunc.
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Phosphor-ing
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Sad to see ya go. Take care of yourself.
"The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'" -Ronald Reagan
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Fleaker
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What a pity. This is becoming intolerable.
Neither flask nor beaker.
"Kid, you don't even know just what you don't know. "
--The Dark Lord Sauron
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Magpie
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I think you should reconsider. You have a lot to contribute and I have learned much from you. If you could put on political blinders I think you
would do just fine on this board.
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azo
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LEAVING
EDITED BY VULTURE:
All caps is considered as SHOUTING.
[Edited on 12-3-2008 by vulture]
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vulture
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Azo, learn how to post or you'll be involuntarily removed from posting. Thank you.
One shouldn't accept or resort to the mutilation of science to appease the mentally impaired.
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azo
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SEE WHAT I MEAN ,YOU POST THEN IT IS REMOVED
I CAN SEE NOW WHY SAURON IS LEAVING IF THIS SORT OF THING KEEPS HAPPENING YOU WILL HAVE NO MEMBERS WHAT IN THE HELL DO YOU MEAN BY CAPS IS CLASSED AS
SHOUTING IF I WAS SHOUTING I WOULD USE WORDS NOT CAPS .
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Polverone
Now celebrating 21 years of madness
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RECALIBRATE TELEGRAPH FOR MODERN INTERNET BEFORE POSTING AGAIN STOP
PGP Key and corresponding e-mail address
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azo
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OK . BUT REAT PEOPLE WITH RESPECT
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7he3ngineer
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Sauron, perhaps you could reconsider in part... Perhaps refuse to enter into non-organic chemistry discussion for example. You have clearly put a lot
of time and effort (and as of late, a lot of emotion) into this community. It will be the loss of this forum if you go.
An expression comes to mind; "Don't let the bastards grind ya down!"
I'm certain everyone would like to see an end to the endless cycle of political dribble (in which little new information is ever introduced), and
(almost) everyone understands why you have said enough is enough!
Reconsider,
Josh
Engineers aren\'t boring people, we\'re just interested in boring things!
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BromicAcid
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See ya, just hope this isn't a ploy for more attention just so you can make a big comeback in a month.
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roamingnome
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discover something cool ..... you have the minerals...
but where will u go.. chemicalforums.org? filled with dweezels that don't want to do their homework
this place is the rose and the thorns...
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Pulverulescent
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Sauron, re your last post on sulfur/chlorine compounds, I was going to preface my reply with the observation, "People like you give this site a good
name, dammit!".
If you leave now, I may never know your take on my (putative) novel "catalysed" ozone synthesis on the electrochemical ozone synthesis thread.
And I have have to say, I'm impressed by your wide-ranging interest; you seem to find no area, however difficult, unworthy of investigation, making
the rest look like dilettantes, or borderline kewls.
I'm more than borderline,BTW; my energetic materials obsession affirms my interest in life, but you're the Chymist here.
P
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franklyn
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Sauron
A D I O S . . I am ceasing to post here.
Best wishes to all but a few, and confusion to them. |
I'm reminded of the philosopher Schopenhauer known for pessimism and irony.
I quote:
" Life is a sorry business, I have resolved to spend it reflecting upon it "
and from his tome The World as Will and Representation this gem
" A man of genius can hardly be sociable, for what dialogues could indeed
be so intelligent and entertaining as his own monologues ? "
and so on _ http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Arthur_Schopenhauer
For you to refrain from correcting someone,
is tantamount to flies keeping away from shit.
As the Terminator said " I'll be back "
Ring the bar bell Carlos Gardel _
Good bye boys, companions of my life ( CLICK HERE LISTEN )
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DrP
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| Quote: | Originally posted by franklyn
For you to refrain from correcting someone,
is tantamount to flies keeping away from shit.
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To correct someone is one thing.... Darn rudeness whilst doing so is another!
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Eliteforum
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Cya Officer!
All that glitters isn't gold.
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YT2095
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I must admit, I`v always found Swansongs to be rather pathetic too, we were at least spared a load of histrionics and melodrama though.
Oh well, it looks like us Lesser Mortals will have to manage without him *sigh*
\"In a world full of wonders mankind has managed to invent boredom\" - Death
Twinkies don\'t have a shelf life. They have a half-life! -Caine (a friend of mine)
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ssdd
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I will likely regret saying this, but why not.
* rant warning *
When I first joined this forum not too long ago (almost a year ago?), it seemed to be a very friendly environment. But it seems as the time has passed
people here have become much less tolerating. And yes, while I and others have asked some dumb questions, there are "kinder" ways to deal with this.
In recent months I have been reading posts and the tolerance level on this forum has dropped dramatically. Perhaps it was because when I first joined
here it was after coming from E&W, but I am afraid that in some ways this forum has become very similar to E&W regarding peoples attitudes.
You can slam me all you like with my dumb questions and actions from the past, but they were all asked in the quest for learning, perhaps we should
just avoid the drama and remember why many are here?
-ssdd
[Edited on 13-3-2008 by ssdd]
All that glitters may not be gold, but at least it contains free electrons.
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chemrox
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In the "post whore" thread another member mentioned being affraid to post here. When I first joined, I posted some inadequately considered questions
and got flamed harder than was necessary to convey the forum norms. I'm hearing from others that the situation has gotten worse. I'm grateful to
Polverone for creating and maintaining this place. I know of no other like it. I also feel he could be more involved in the leadership part. It's
sad when the most knowledgable members are also the least kind. In times past education was a privalge of the gentle. It has become quite clear that
among us are those, however smart they may seem, that are anything but gentle. Sauron's departure should not be taken lightly. While he had
little patience for fools and anyone he thought might be a drug cook, he also contributed a lot. He worked hard to serve this little e-community with
refs, books and knowledgable posts. Indeed, Sauron made the place less daunting for me and showed me the ropes through PMs and emails. I for one
shall miss him. So long good friend- I understand you will still post in refs?
"When you let the dumbasses vote you end up with populism followed by autocracy and getting back is a bitch." Plato (sort of)
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woelen
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I have double feelings about this. First I want to say it is a pity if Sauron leaves. So, also from me, Sauron, reconsider your decision. Your
knowledge and contributions really are appreciated.
On the other hand, we should not be too harsh towards new members, who do not have the knowledge and resources like some of us have. For me, it is not
the knowledge and resources which count, but attitude. I now see a bunch of new members coming here, who are really eager to learn and discover. And
such persons I like, even if they sometimes ask stupid things. One can tell them that they have done something not so wise in different ways....
@ssdd: I also noticed a somewhat hardening of the atmosphere over here, but things have become better now, compared to 3 or 4 months ago. Open your
eyes for that. Things are changing again in the good direction. I also have the impression that the somewhat harder period has not been there without
reason. Right now, the atmosphere is getting better again, and at the same time, the really blatant cook threads also have become much less. I think
that now we are picking the fruits of what the mods of this site have done in the last half year or so 
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Eliteforum
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Why is this in Forum Matters? (When it clearly isn't) In fact it should be in Detritus..
All that glitters isn't gold.
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franklyn
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Sauron is one of the more lively debaters at hand. I only lament he spends
too little time on the things that matter and too much time addressing petty
issues of no consequence. The consequence of our gadflies leaving is that by
their absence what is left then is just the shit. The value of this forum is as a
venue for exchange of ideas. It's better served producing less heat and more
light. Argument is not a vice it's a skill, that those less capable need to learn
to meaningfully participate _
http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Art_of_Controversy
The recent death of William F. Buckley _
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_F._Buckley,_Jr.
exemplifies that one is remembered more so for how one says things than
what one actually says _
http://thinkexist.com/quotes/william_f._buckley,_jr.
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Polverone
Now celebrating 21 years of madness
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Sauron is still active in References, so it is not exactly appropriate to eulogize him. Neither is it appropriate to insult him or any other member,
in this thread or elsewhere. I think everyone has seen the news by now, so I am closing this thread. If you have concerns about the forum environment,
post them in a new Forum Matters thread.
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Sauron
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Sayonara from Sauron
I am weary of the arbitrary and petty tyranny of some moderators, and of the capricious and mercurial "policies" of admin. These are insufferable to
me.
Accordingly and with deep regret I must take my leave.
To my many friends here, sorry for not taking the time to make individual farewells.
[Edited on 4-7-2009 by Sauron]
Sic gorgeamus a los subjectatus nunc.
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starman
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Is it really that bad Sauron?Your caustic wit will be sadly missed.Gave me many chuckles,thankfully it was never turned in my direction.
Chemistry- The journey from the end of physics to the beginning of life.(starman)
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