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Sauron
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Anyone foolish enough to order from sciencelab after reading such clearcut thievery, deserves whatever happens.
Sic gorgeamus a los subjectatus nunc.
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chemchemical
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Yes, do not order from them. I actually got a refund after calling about 5 times, but they only refunded half! I called again and they acted like it
was some mistake and said they would refund the other half. If it doesn't come through in the next day or two I'll keep calling.
If you bother them enough, you'll get something back.
I just can't believe they've been in business this long. Its a good thing I only did a test order, but that was still pretty expensive due to their
already high prices. The one girl acted like she was new, even though I've seen her name on this board before.
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Sauron
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How can you tell when they are lying?
Their lips str moving.
Sic gorgeamus a los subjectatus nunc.
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helleborine
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Hi
I was robbed by sciencelab.com and I'm going all over the internet to give them bad reviews.
They did their usual schtick; half the order (the most expensive half) was back ordered for 4 months - too late to reverse credit card charges). I
told them to cancel the most expensive items, and send the two cheaper ones.
They never refunded me the $175.00 overcharged. I have a bottle of the world's most expensive, vintage (it's so old, it's amber instead of clear)
propylene glycol. I basically paid $378/L for the product.
They don't answer the phone; they don't return messages; they don't reply to emails.
I have complained to the BBB, the attorney general and AC3.
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helleborine
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You may want to leave a bad review here:
http://www.siteadvisor.com/sites/sciencelab.com/
It will leave a bad mark for them, in the GOOGLE RESULT PAGES for all people that use the free siteadvisor service.
It's probably THE MOST DAMNING bad mark for a website in terms of lost business.
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UnintentionalChaos
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I need to read more closely. Was going to say the BBB, but you did already.
[Edited on 2-23-10 by UnintentionalChaos]
Department of Redundancy Department - Now with paperwork!
'In organic synthesis, we call decomposition products "crap", however this is not a IUPAC approved nomenclature.' -Nicodem
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helleborine
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The BBB has no teeth, sciencelab.com is an online business.
If the subset of people that use SiteAdvisor in their google searches see a red X next to the sciencelab.com listing, they are unlikely to visit the
site to begin with, and a popup window will warn them away.
It would be very useful if people that have been victims of sciencelab.com fraud (and I understand there may be a handful visiting this forum) wrote a
review with SiteAdvisor.
It's the one review that web users may receive passively BEFORE surfing the the sciencelab.com website.
[Edited on 23-2-2010 by helleborine]
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helleborine
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Persistence pays off!
I have contacted the Houston community papers with the story, they are INTERESTED in running a story after checking out the BBB complaints, and I will
be giving them a phone interview tomorrow morning about their dishonest dealings.
Any advice on what I should stress?
[Edited on 11-3-2010 by helleborine]
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javagamer
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You might want to focus on the fact that they've ripped off universities as well as many hobbyists.
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helleborine
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Where can I find the information about them ripping off universities?
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mr.crow
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This horrible website is mentioned several times on Wikipedia for MSDS links.
Perhaps someone could start a discussion there to have them all removed.
Double, double toil and trouble; Fire burn, and caldron bubble
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watson.fawkes
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Quote: Originally posted by mr.crow  | This horrible website is mentioned several times on Wikipedia for MSDS links.
Perhaps someone could start a discussion there to have them all removed. |
Wikipedia is a wiki. You can edit
it yourself.
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mr.crow
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I'm too lazy for that. Someone else there might feel like changing 100 links
Double, double toil and trouble; Fire burn, and caldron bubble
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helleborine
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There's only 121 such WIKI links. I will remove them all this morning.
They have 12 pending complaints at the Attorney General's office.
I snail-mailed a complaint to the IRS. I doubt they pay taxes, they live in a castle, like kings.
I'm feisty, aren't I.
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anotheronebitesthedust
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Stacey Tyler is listed under Directors for The Humble ISD Education Foundation. If I had been ripped off by Sciencelab, I'd simply find all the phone
numbers of anyone who is at all associated with Rob or Stacey Tyler, and call each and every one of them. Email, telephone, facebook, family members,
even write letters to their kids asking if mommy and daddy have my money.
http://www.humbleisdfoundation.org/About_Us/board.asp
[Edited on 12-3-2010 by anotheronebitesthedust]
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helleborine
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I've removed 40 wiki sciencelab.com entries. It's taking a while, because I'm replacing it with a link from non-criminal sources, but I hope to
remove them all.
Anything else I could do?
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helleborine
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Thanks for the Board of Directors link. I have forwarded it to the journalist.
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helleborine
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Look at how sciencelab.com acquires chemicals, and where they come from:
http://www.tradeindia.com/buyoffer/2142914/Urea.html
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helleborine
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This is wikipedia for you... I've just been blocked because I'm spamming, supposedly, with links.
Even if the links are to MSDS from JT Baker, Fischer, etc.
"No good deed shall go unpunished"
They've undone all my edits:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Tim_Song
UPDATE:
They revoked the block, I'm continuing to obliterate their Wikipedia presence.
As I was doing this, something dawned on me. I was looking up MSDS, and sometimes, the chemical name on the wiki page was antiquated, and in disuse.
Sciencelab.com seems to be the only source of MSDS for these antiquated terms. I had to dig up modern names in order to find the actual, more modern
MSDS versions. I wonder if their MSDS are even accurate. How can they be the only ones with an MSDS for some chemicals??? I think they may be
FAKING it.
I won't follow up on this suspicion as I'm afraid that it's beyond my competence.
[Edited on 12-3-2010 by helleborine]
[Edited on 12-3-2010 by helleborine]
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anotheronebitesthedust
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You could also look up Rob Tyler in the Houston white pages and call each number and ask for Stacey. Once you find out where they live you can really
start having fun.
http://hellohouston.com/WP/white-pages.cfm
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helleborine
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Their home phone is 281.358.7677
They live HERE
Personal Facebook page
Business Facebook page
This is where the scavenged, degraded, barely identified chemicals and glassware are repackaged to maintain a semblance of legitimacy.
Thieving has made them very rich.
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In other news, they have no more links on the wiki.
[Edited on 12-3-2010 by helleborine]
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helleborine
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I may be a crazed, internet stalking Sciencelab victim, but one thing I won't do is call them at home - I am a law-abiding citizen. No. I have
bigger, better plans for them that use legal channels.
I hope that the newspaper story this week will result in the attorney general's office to wake up from its slumber and place them under arrest. I
also have a letter posted to the IRS, I doubt they're honest with the taxman. I simply told the IRS the truth, and that dishonest people like them
might yield a rewarding audit.
I want them to be put behind bars, or at very least, be financially ruined for years to come. I might tolerate them living in a rented flat and
wearing hand me downs.
Much more satisfying than insulting people on the phone.
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undead_alchemist
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Nice touch of posting the links on their facebook page..
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mr.crow
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Good thing you sorted out the wikipedia thing 
As for posting the personal links, that's what happens when Internet Hate Machine gets going
I think the IRS is going to do it, you don't mess around with them.
Double, double toil and trouble; Fire burn, and caldron bubble
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Skyjumper
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Well, I do notice they are near those giant power lines. Don't they mess with your brain?
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