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fusso
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what forums?
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Fulmen
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@morganbw:
I have to disagree. One can cut them old giants a bit of slack, but the line has to be drawn somewhere. You can't earn the right to misbehave and
disrespect the owner of this forum, I don't care what they've done in the past.
We're not banging rocks together here. We know how to put a man back together.
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morganbw
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I am not going to try to point out the forum names as they are basically all inert not.
Roscoe has had many user names, perhaps PM the owner of this board, he knows for sure that this man is the real thing, and he can at least share two
other user names/perhaps more. What has seemed to happen is that our friend has stepped away from the chemistry toward the politics.
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XeonTheMGPony
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Quote: Originally posted by yobbo II  |
If one were to join a political forum and constantly stray into the subject of oxidation/reduction, energetics, color chemistry of different valency
states etc etc they would (I would imagine) be removed or/and laughed at.
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Odds are no, some would engage some would ignore, I run one for anti PC, we tend to have tuff skin and dissenting is encouraged, we all don't agree on
things but we all have a voice.
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fusso
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| Quote: Originally posted by XeonTheMGPony | | I run one for anti PC, we tend to have tuff skin and dissenting is encouraged, we all don't agree on things but we all have a voice.
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Which forum? I'd like to have a look.
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ShotBored
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| Quote: Originally posted by morganbw |
I am not going to try to point out the forum names as they are basically all inert not.
Roscoe has had many user names, perhaps PM the owner of this board, he knows for sure that this man is the real thing, and he can at least share two
other user names/perhaps more. What has seemed to happen is that our friend has stepped away from the chemistry toward the politics.
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I understand what you are saying, and like I mentioned, I don't have years of background with him. That being said, even in non-political discussions
that related to science it seemed like disagreeing with him had a fair chance of leading to an explosive confrontation where he would begin flinging
insults. I see this type of mentality in older folks all the time, where their years of experience sometime lend to hard-headedness towards new ideas
or the notion that they might be wrong on something. Where, as a moderator or an admin, is the line supposed to be drawn for individuals who have been
warned multiple times about this type of behavior? Tough situation...
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Joeychemist
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While I do miss the exciting and experimentally fruitful days of the early 2000's (ref; Mr. Anonymous' Azo-Chlathrates etc.) I do agree that Roscoe
seemed to be less interested in posting science lately and more so posting the bare minimum in order to secure a podium and audience...
But the guy is a huge part or this forum and family and I don't agree with a full on lifelong ban of THIS specific user account. I agree that a change
in tune on his part is necessary but that he should be allowed back after an extended time out.
Boo. Boo, indeed...
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elementcollector1
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| Quote: Originally posted by Joeychemist | While I do miss the exciting and experimentally fruitful days of the early 2000's (ref; Mr. Anonymous' Azo-Chlathrates etc.) I do agree that Roscoe
seemed to be less interested in posting science lately and more so posting the bare minimum in order to secure a podium and audience...
But the guy is a huge part or this forum and family and I don't agree with a full on lifelong ban of THIS specific user account. I agree that a change
in tune on his part is necessary but that he should be allowed back after an extended time out.
Boo. Boo, indeed... |
The main problem with this attitude is, while kind in nature, it opens the door to abuse of that kindness. I may not have been around for Rosco's
golden years, but I've been on SM for nearly a decade, and that's plenty of time to establish a pattern and for SM's various mods to provide
opportunities (of which there were plenty) to reach common ground. None were taken and most were ignored. It wasn't like Rosco didn't know his
behavior was unacceptable after so many warnings, so he must have known and not cared. Letting him back in would only affirm this viewpoint.
I fully agree that posting here is a privilege, not a right, and can and should be moderated as needed. If the mods step in, that's their right and
they have authority. If Polverone feels the need to step in, you should know how serious of an issue this is and how lightly it wasn't taken.
Elements Collected:52/87
Latest Acquired: Cl
Next in Line: Nd
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Although I’ve been peeking into this forum over the years, I’ve mostly been away. I remember discussing exotic thermites and thermodynamics with
Rosco Bodine in 2007 and 2008 to great detail. Because of my absence, I had no idea his posts had degraded to what I just saw! I’m in line with
some of what he says but of course I know when to listen and be civil.
I blame the political parties and the media for our ridiculous divide. The harsh divide is getting worse not better since 2020. I’m sorry to say
it’s going to take a heart breaking and gut wrenching event to set society right again. And I’m saying this is a global issue.
Fellow molecular manipulator
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fx-991ex
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Aw, sad. didnt know him much but he was posting useful chemistry material.
Is it the first time he get banned? (i know this is none of my business), just curious, did he get perma banned straight away or he had previous
shorter ban(like a week or a month)?.
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Organikum
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| Quote: Originally posted by fx-991ex | Aw, sad. didnt know him much but he was posting useful chemistry material.
Is it the first time he get banned? (i know this is none of my business), just curious, did he get perma banned straight away or he had previous
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Did you look at the date? Happened four years ago so it is old news.
In short Rosco sadly joined in the wake of 9/11 the alt/right movement and he activly participated in their strategy to functionalize, disrupt and
even destroy internet discussion boards of any kind. They organized and still organize such attacks at places like "mightyrighty "etc. - troll central
so to say, worse then 8-Chan.
I liked Rosco and respected him and despite being politically on the other side I was able to talk to him about chemistry in private on a respectful
level until the end.
He knew what he was doing and that he had it coming, he was warned often enough. If he would like to come back, I am pretty sure he just had to write
a mail to Polverone and assure that he won't be disruptive from now on and he would be be back. It always was and still is his choice.
regards
/ORG
PS: Boards like this do not work as democracy, not even when run by a group, they only work if there is a single person calling the shots and
depending on the integrity of this person the board lives or dies.
Persons with integrity are/were: Polverone (SCM), Vesp (Vespiary), HeyMan/Unobtainium (HIVE)
Persons without were: Rhodium (HIVE), Lilienthal (HIVE), Osmium (HIVE), the idiot who killed the Lycaeum, and a thousand more.
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