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I mean, I don't see any reason why it wouldn't work. Depending on the solubility of methyl ethyl ketazine in water you might lose more of your product
in the end. You could always add a base to the ammonium hydroxide solution you have and heat it, driving out the ammonia and channeling it into some
freezing cold ammonium hydroxide solution that you already have, in order to increase the concentration.
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I've got 2kg of aluminum sulfate laying around, but I have no idea what to do with it, considering that some reactions with it make Al(OH)3, which is
awful to deal with... http://www.sciencemadness.org/talk/viewthread.php?tid=31603#...
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Quote: Originally posted by No Tears Only Dreams Now |
I mean, I don't see any reason why it wouldn't work. Depending on the solubility of methyl ethyl ketazine in water you might lose more of your product
in the end. You could always add a base to the ammonium hydroxide solution you have and heat it, driving out the ammonia and channeling it into some
freezing cold ammonium hydroxide solution that you already have, in order to increase the concentration. |
Yeah, I was trying to avoid doing that though. I think methyl ethyl ketazine is somewhat soluble in water, but I can't find any references about
this.
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Hi Folks,
What do you think this device did in its good days? I scavenged it from a closed analytical lab. The shiny part at the end looks like gold to me)
Thanks for your help!
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It looks a bit like a pH probe electrode to me, though it seems a bit too complicated to be just a ph probe. Maybe someone else will have a more
convincing answer than me :p
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I do not think that it was used in liquid, rather measure the moisture content of some gas somehow, the small orange bulb is probably for temperature
measurement, but I can only guess. The metal on some other metallish surface reminds me of the electrical element of rectifier.
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Any ideas for a easy aquiring/homemade selective membrane for a potassium chloride electrolytic cell to make potassium hydroxide? I've tried gelatin
but it came off from the PVC pipe that connects the two half-cells.
[Edited on 6-10-2014 by AlphaDecay]
[Edited on 6-10-2014 by AlphaDecay]
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Quote: Originally posted by AlphaDecay | Any ideas for a easy aquiring/homemade selective membrane for a potassium chloride electrolytic cell to make potassium hydroxide? I've tried gelatin
but it came off from the PVC pipe that connects the two half-cells.
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There should be more than a few topics on this subject - some of them started by me, if I recall. Ceramic was mentioned.
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Why does ATP not spontaneously react with water?
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It does. It's why it's synthesised as needed, rather than stockpiled in the cell, because it doesn't hang around for very long.
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Forgive me if this is a stupid question but, would an aromatic aldehyde be sufficiently acidic to react with a phenol to produce a ketone?
Specifically I'm wondering if p-dimethylaminobenzaldehyde will react with p-dimethylaminophenol to yield Michler's Ketone?
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Aldehydes aren't acidic, but you don't want an acid, you want an oxidizing agent. Aldehydes aren't very good oxidizing agents, so I'd guess "no".
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Would the aldehyde be an oxidizing agent? I was hoping a reaction like the following would happen. Maybe the equilibrium could be driven by the
addition of sulfuric acid? (Sorry about the terrible picture)
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If you wanted this to happen, you'd have to use an aryl halide instead of a phenol, convert it to a Grignard, then react that with the aldehyde.
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So for amphoteric hydroxides like Cr and Cu what would happen if you attempted to react them with NaOH? Would they form Chromate/chromite or cuprate
and release ammonia or what would happen?
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Quote: Originally posted by bismuthate | So for amphoteric hydroxides like Cr and Cu what would happen if you attempted to react them with NaOH? Would they form Chromate/chromite or cuprate
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Cr(OH)3 will react with hydroxide ion to give the soluble Cr(OH)4- ion (which can be oxidized to chromate). Zinc,
lead, and aluminum hydroxides will similarly dissolve in excess hydroxide, but copper hydroxide is barely amphoteric- you may get a bit of blue in the
solution, but you won't dissolve a significant amount of it without an outrageous concentration of base.
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Yes but what would happen if I tried to dissolve the ammonia complexes of the hydroxides in base?
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Tetramminecopper(II) ion is stable towards hydroxide ion (I have a book somewhere that discusses the preparation of tetramminecopper(II) hydroxide and
its use in dissolving cellulose). The chromium complex may slowly react with hydroxide to replace the ammonia ligands (Cr(III) complexes are
notoriously slow to replace their ligands, but strong base will catalyze the reaction through deprotonation of the amine ligands).
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Hello all, recently I decided to convert 10gr. of 30% palladium hydroxide on carbon to palladium II chloride dihydrate. I achieved
this by digestion of said catalyst with dilute HCl I am left with, after filtration and flash distillation, a maroon powder with a strong hydrochloric
fragrance. my question is does anyone have a suggestion of the best solvent a or duel solvent for recrystalization? Any knowledgable suggestion would
be appreciated.
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Sorry if I am asking a question before the one above had been answered - I waited until now, but I kind of need to know somewhat urgently: can you
suggest a method for passivating nickel? I know nickel is corrosion resistant, so "passivation" in this case is not meant as a way to protect the
nickel part, but to actually protect the chemicals in contact with nickel from its catalytic activity. These chemicals will be dissolved in a mixture
of polar solvents (including water).
One idea I had was treating nickel with oxalic acid. Nickel oxalate seems mostly insoluble in water and other polar solvents, and it is not, as far as
I know, a common catalyst, so few or no reaction would be catalyzed by it. Problem is, this layer is probably thin and not very resistant to wear.
Please suggest some better passivation materials. I'm thankful for any idea.
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Is your solution acidic or basic?
Do you have to use nickel? Why not glass?
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Ph will be no less than 4 and no greater than 8... I think. I am not sure about the upper threshold, but the solution is likely to be mildly acidic.
Can't be glass because it has to be ferromagnetic. Nickel seemed OK, since it usually doesn't corrode easily, but, as I said, it might catalyze some
reactions.
I must note that I can, if push come to shove, deposit a thin layer of silicon oxide over the nickel by chemical vapor deposition, but I'd rather not
use that high-tech solution, if I don't have to. Besides, I am not sure how good is CVD SiO2 adhesion to nickel.
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I just made some copper "asprinate" and i can't find much info regarding its toxicity(msds)? Its not that dangerous is it? (it is a potential
medicine). Just curious.
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This page lists an LD50. I don't think it has many other hazards, I'm guessing the toxicity will be very similar to that of another insoluble
copper compound such as copper carbonate.
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Quote: Originally posted by gdflp | This page lists an LD50. I don't think it has many other hazards, I'm guessing the toxicity will be very similar to that of another insoluble
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Thanks! I just checked and it seems to be less toxic than aspirin itself in rats. Interesting!
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