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grndpndr
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What's the big deal about disposing of Ammonium Nitrate? Just dump it in a bucket of water and pour it on the lawn.[/rquote]
#1! calling leo in a ituation like that(possesion of some unwanted AN/ nitrates,acids etc) is unnescessary and a potential legal liability.Unless it
were a toxic chemical able to poison water treatment plants/discharge I would handle it personaly keeping the MSDS in mind.A University/home lab is
apple and oranges leo would have a whole different attitude
towards the home chemist no matter how legit.Caution would be a healthy watchword if you intended to maintain your 'freedom'.
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I absolutely agree.
Calling any authorities invites trouble as MANY individuals are very illiterate when it comes to chemicals & their uses.
No matter what various pyrotechnic outlets have dealt with regarding the CPSA & their civil/legal complications, powdered metals are NOT illegal.
They are commonly used in metallic paints and inks. Do a search for ECKART (the company that manufactures 5413H & 10890 "pyro aluminum powder")
and you will note they are very much in business as an ink company. The powdered metals are not called "pyro", of course.
The stipulation deals with "kits" to manufacture illegal fireworks ( the quintessential M80) and the profiteering on materials that actually cost
about 50-75% of what they had sold for.
YET, there are now new companies that have taken over for Skylighter and Firefox, skirting the "Kit issue" by large banners proclaiming none such
shall be sold and asking for various licenses form the ATF. The reason (most likely) is that the real money these companies make are from large scale
professional pyrotechnic display companies that are often involved in high dollar performances, have licenses, insurance, & very well trained
folks that are aware of the dangers. However these companies spend thousands of dollars at a shot (no pun intended) setting up for a serious display.
The level of danger from an FAE exists just as viciously from a grain tower as it does from fine metallic particulate. But placing a large firecracker
in the hands of a child has cost too many fingers & eyes for it not to have been acted upon by the authorities. Thus the stipulation that "Thou
shalt not make M80's" but non-explosive uses remain.
Actually there are some damn interesting stories as to how & why certain companies got a lot of negative attention while others did not. Just like
many potentially dangerous hobbies, chemistry must be approached with maturity.
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Quote: Originally posted by NeutralIon  | | Quote: Originally posted by DDTea |
no trouble, just a quick, mostly painless solution that mostly entailed disposal of the chemicals (unless they were legitimately being used for future
demonstrations; even then, though, there was too much hassle involved in keeping things like Ammonium Nitrate).
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What's the big deal about disposing of Ammonium Nitrate? Just dump it in a bucket of water and pour it on the lawn. |
Universities don't like when you pour chemicals on their grass.
Also, the issue was that after 9/11, almost ALL Nitrates were added to some state department list. Universities are allowed to have them, but they
must declare exactly how much they have in their possession at any time and where it is located. They didn't like that there was Ammonium Nitrate
around that they didn't know about.
"In the end the proud scientist or philosopher who cannot be bothered to make his thought accessible has no choice but to retire to the heights in
which dwell the Great Misunderstood and the Great Ignored, there to rail in Olympic superiority at the folly of mankind." - Reginald Kapp.
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