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I doubt EVERY iodine compound will be regulated. I am sure there is something we can oxidize to obtain iodine. I mean iodine is an antiseptic
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A very highly regulated antiseptic... Well you can still buy a tiny bottle of 1% povidone iodine, at least for now, but that doesn't do us much good.
For example every possible plutonium compound is regulated on the basis that it simply contains plutonium, so why can't iodine be similar? If it
contains iodine, it's gonna be illegal to have (at least without the proper permits), regardless of what it is.
Who would have ever thought 20 years ago that such a common and inconspicuous element such as iodine would be so heavily regulated? It was considered
a staple of every first aid kit, medicine cabinet, camping supplies, etc. Perhaps in the future other compounds and elements that we take for granted
will be regulated or banned. I think one we will very likely see this happen to soon is urea. Urea is an easy source of ammonia, and it can be used
to make the explosive urea nitrate. Sodium bicarbonate is another that some law makers have already begun targeting, even though it is a staple of
every kitchen. In the state of Missouri they already tried once (and fortunately failed) to move it behind the counter and require ID and to
purchase. A couple years ago I was able to purchase 5lb jugs of KMnO4 at a water treatment shop, but who knows how much longer it will be available
if it even still is. For whatever unforseen reasons, perhaps even KCl (as salt substitute, water softener, or ice melt salt), CaCl2, and equally
innocuous chemicals will become regulated. Coal and charcoal perhaps too. If it can happen to iodine and ammonia and ammonium nitrate surely it can
happen to them. All that has to happen is for law makers to catch on that a chemical can, either hypothetically or in practice by some roundabout
way, be used to make a drug or explosive or a helper chemical used in the preparation of such. Almost every conceivable element or compound falls
under this category.
The mind cannot decide the truth; it can only find the truth.
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chloric1
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I sincerely hope that it does not get so bad that even KCl is regulated. But as a rule, when I government starts restriscting things, the list just
expands. It all started in the 1970's with anthranilic acid and a handful of other chemicals only to be followed by much more. In a way its very bad
now because it seems like its better to stockpile and not use what you buy. So we all have heavy stashes of reagents we don't use so we don't lose
and in the end it is like we never had them to begin with I have a red substance
that I purchased just after it went restrcted and now I feel compelled to keep it because of its enourmous monetary value. I can probably trade it
for a distillation setup and then some. What will I do?!
Fellow molecular manipulator
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Ritter
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Iodine is available still on eBay, item #170246136775, about $55 for 100 gm. You can also find NaI & KI there.
[Edited on 2-8-2008 by Ritter]
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16MillionEyes
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"Well, and not to mention the news I was reading about Iran planning to detonate a nuclear bomb miles ABOVE the US to generate a giant EMP pulse
taking us back to the bygone days of the early 19th century."
And you honestly believe that? Iran doesn't even have nuclear weapons and now they say that they're planning to blow it above U.S' airspace? Hahaha.
Mass discommunication media is going beyond cynic nowadays...What paper/source was this?
Sorry for the unrelated rant but it seems curious how outlandish reports like that actually get through the public.
On a more related note, pure NaOH is hard to get (even impossible) in hardware stores so what Thompson claimed as being "unregulated" is not all that
true. Does anybody remember Red Devil (U.S)? It was pushed out of the market by restrictions, not low sales. Day by day all the chemistry that will be
eventually allowed to be done at home is egg boiling--with amazing protein denaturation! Woah kids, look at the boiled egg, surely this will make you
pursue a chemistry career.
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joeflsts
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| Quote: | Originally posted by __________
"Well, and not to mention the news I was reading about Iran planning to detonate a nuclear bomb miles ABOVE the US to generate a giant EMP pulse
taking us back to the bygone days of the early 19th century."
And you honestly believe that? Iran doesn't even have nuclear weapons and now they say that they're planning to blow it above U.S' airspace? Hahaha.
Mass discommunication media is going beyond cynic nowadays...What paper/source was this?
Sorry for the unrelated rant but it seems curious how outlandish reports like that actually get through the public.
On a more related note, pure NaOH is hard to get (even impossible) in hardware stores so what Thompson claimed as being "unregulated" is not all that
true. Does anybody remember Red Devil (U.S)? It was pushed out of the market by restrictions, not low sales. Day by day all the chemistry that will be
eventually allowed to be done at home is egg boiling--with amazing protein denaturation! Woah kids, look at the boiled egg, surely this will make you
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And yet, ACE Hardware simply replaced Red Devil with another brand of pure NaOH. Those restrictions apparently only applied to the manufacturer of
Red Devil.
There is no question that buying chemicals is getting harder. It is YOUR responsibility to help hobbiests by giving them factual information. If not
why bother to post?
Joe
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16MillionEyes
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| Quote: | | There is no question that buying chemicals is getting harder. It is YOUR responsibility to help hobbiests by giving them factual information. If not
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I don't think I understand what you mean. Are you telling me to give factual information and if it's me, how am I giving false information?
Red Devil was pulled out of the market due to regulations (I read this somewhere), whether other products selling pure NaOH are available OTC that's a
different thing, in fact, I own a bottle of ACE's NaOH which I found out of pure luck.
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