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[*] posted on 21-9-2013 at 10:24


I recently received my order from Elemental along with some glass tubing for various experiments and ampouling. Shipping took quite a long time, about 2 and a half months, however everything was expertly shipped and packaged very well.




Forgot to mention.... I also just received this 50g ingot of Gallium! What a fascinating and amazing metal. Although I quickly found just how "sticky" it is.



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[*] posted on 23-9-2013 at 13:09


I just love these list threads. It's nice to see all the exotic and useful stuff that people acquire.

Here's my latest order, nothing really exotic:
Copper(II)sulfate*5H20, 1kg
Potassium nitrate, 5kg
Potassium perchlorate, 5kg
Calcium carbonate, 1kg
Potassium carbonate, 1kg
Strontium nitrate, 1kg
Sodium thiosulfate, 1kg
Ammonium dichromate, 0,5kg
Potassium dichromate, 0,5kg
Ammonium nitrate, 1kg
Potasium permanganate, 1kg
Sodium nitrate, 1kg
Calcium carbide, 1kg
Calcium chloride anh, 1kg
Hydrogen peroxide 59%, 1L
Antimony trisulfide, 1kg
Perchloric acid 70%, 1L

I'm just getting started with my lab, and I'm in the process of buying different chemicals that I find interesting and useful.
I also want to acquire what I need before our government manages to forbid private persons to buy anything at all. Something as simple as sulfuric acid is forbidden to buy without a permit here in Sweden.
So far I have around 70-80 different chemicals. Plenty more out there.
I really want more organic reagents and different transition metals/their salts.
Red phosphorus is also on my mostwanted-list.


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[*] posted on 23-9-2013 at 13:15


"Something as simple as sulfuric acid is forbidden to buy without a permit here in Sweden. " But 60% peroxide is...



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[*] posted on 23-9-2013 at 15:13


Quote: Originally posted by plante1999  
"Something as simple as sulfuric acid is forbidden to buy without a permit here in Sweden. " But 60% peroxide is...


Well, now that you mention it I suppose that needs an explanation.
What I mean is that no company in Sweden sells sulfuric acid to private persons without a permit (which you can't get if you don't have a really good reason), and not 60% peroxide either by the way.
I have bought it from abroad.
Chemicals are hard to obtain from Sweden, because no companies (except a few with pyrotechnic stuff) sell to private persons, and hobby chemistry doesn't exist here, more or less.
Apart from the OTC chemicals I buy from other EU countries.
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[*] posted on 23-9-2013 at 16:05


Quote: Originally posted by BobD1001  
I recently received my order from Elemental along with some glass tubing for various experiments and ampouling. Shipping took quite a long time, about 2 and a half months, however everything was expertly shipped and packaged very well.



Their labels are far nicer than they were ~7 years ago!
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[*] posted on 23-9-2013 at 17:51


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Their labels are far nicer than they were ~7 years ago!


They certainly have an A class operation going there! Their customer service was excellent as well. They have my recommendation for sure.
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[*] posted on 23-9-2013 at 23:42


I ordered 1000 ml of chlorosulfonic acid. This can be used as an excellent extremely acidic solvent for experiments with superacids. For some experiments it can be considered 'poor man's oleum'. With quite a few chemicals it reacts like SO3 while expelling HCl. E.g. with 70% HClO4 it produces HCl and what remains is an anhydrous HClO4/H2SO4 mix, which can be used for certain experiments in which anhydrous HClO4 is needed. These experiments are less dangerous than experiments with pure anhydrous HClO4, the acid is diluted with H2SO4.

One of the things I want to experiment with is NOClO4 and NO2ClO4 and this chemical opens up ways of doing so in a relatively "safe" way.




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[*] posted on 24-9-2013 at 07:32


Quote: Originally posted by BobD1001  
Forgot to mention.... I also just received this 50g ingot of Gallium! What a fascinating and amazing metal. Although I quickly found just how "sticky" it is.
Is the gallium from the same source?



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[*] posted on 24-9-2013 at 09:39


Quote: Originally posted by woelen  
I ordered 1000 ml of chlorosulfonic acid. This can be used as an excellent extremely acidic solvent for experiments with superacids. For some experiments it can be considered 'poor man's oleum'. With quite a few chemicals it reacts like SO3 while expelling HCl. E.g. with 70% HClO4 it produces HCl and what remains is an anhydrous HClO4/H2SO4 mix, which can be used for certain experiments in which anhydrous HClO4 is needed. These experiments are less dangerous than experiments with pure anhydrous HClO4, the acid is diluted with H2SO4.

One of the things I want to experiment with is NOClO4 and NO2ClO4 and this chemical opens up ways of doing so in a relatively "safe" way.


How much did your chlorosulfonic acid end up costing you? A few months back I purchased 500ml @ 60$ Plus hazmat which was an additional 35$!
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[*] posted on 24-9-2013 at 22:49


The acid was not really cheap, it cost me EUR 73, including the price for ADR-compliant shipping.

This stuff, however, still is MUCH cheaper than real oleum. Getting oleum is very hard where I live and the price is outrageous (around EUR 300 per liter). For some experiments, however, it is a useful substitute for oleum.




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[*] posted on 25-9-2013 at 05:02


Quote: Originally posted by bfesser  
Is the gallium from the same source?


The Gallium I purchased is from Rootometals. It was the most inexpensive source I found online.
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[*] posted on 1-10-2013 at 12:07


2lbs of barium nitrate
1g of each actinide element.
that's all, but I plan to make a large order after i get the money (soon)
I plan to order cesium for my element collection :cool:




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[*] posted on 1-10-2013 at 13:11


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1g of each actinide element.

Actinide? You most likely mean lanthanide. If not, then I would not want to live in the same city as the one where you live :o

The only actinides which might be available for some of us are thorium (half life of 14 billion years) and depleted uranium (half life of nearly 4.5 billion years), the others are insanely radioactive and cannot be handled outside a very well equipped nuclear lab.

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[*] posted on 1-10-2013 at 14:16


@Woelen: Have you tried using your chlorosulfonic acid since you bought it? I had the need to use some in a prep at work the other day and I can honestly seen I have not seen anything fume like it. Avoid the use of plasticware because it even turns PP black over a short period. It is one chemical I have wanted to make, yet actually seeing how it behaves in a professional lab makes me reconsider if this is a wise thing to make at home.
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[*] posted on 1-10-2013 at 15:04


Woelen sorry i had a stupid moment(i have those) don't worry the only radioctive element i have is samarium, but what about americium i'm? there is minute amounts of that in smoke detectors.
I can't wait to visit the new Biosurplus in massachussets for some glassware.

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[*] posted on 2-10-2013 at 02:45


@DJF90: I did not yet receive the chlorosulfonic acid. I hope to receive it this week or next week. I know it is very corrosive and I hope that it is shipped in a bottle with a good cap, which lasts a long time.



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[*] posted on 2-10-2013 at 09:03


In the bottle, it is fine so long as the cap sealed well. Handling it is a different matter entirely. I guess it wasnt used as a smoke agent for nothing, and the violence with which it reacts with water is incredible (I found out by washing residues from the measuring cylinder, even though I attempted to quickly drown it).
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[*] posted on 2-10-2013 at 13:15


I am looking forward to receive this chemical. I know how extremely violent some chemicals can react with water. I have seen the reaction of 65% oleum with water and this reaction also is amazingly violent. Sodium plus water or even potassium plus water is tame, when compared with oleum and water. I expect the chlorosulfonic acid to be only a little bit less violent with water.



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[*] posted on 23-10-2013 at 10:10


Quote: Originally posted by woelen  
I ordered 1000 ml of chlorosulfonic acid. [...]
Unfortunately this could not be delivered to me. Apparently, new regulations (REACH) have become effective in the Netherlands and this chemical cannot be purchased anymore, unless you can fulfill the required paperwork :( . Only certain research labs and large institutions can fullfil the paperwork.



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[*] posted on 23-10-2013 at 11:57


That's a bummer! did you get your money back at least?



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[*] posted on 23-10-2013 at 13:47


Quote: Originally posted by plante1999  
500ml Tert butyl alcohol (mostly for T-Bu inorganic esters and for the chloride)


Where did you get this? How much did it cost. I really want some tertiary alcohol (might do a grignard).




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[*] posted on 23-10-2013 at 13:54


Newhorizon scientific. It was about 30$ but the shipping was absurd (35$) at least it was for a few item. If you only want a small amount of it and are ready to pay for the shipping U2U me.




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[*] posted on 23-10-2013 at 13:57


Awesome, I will try to see whether I can order it some time soon.



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[*] posted on 23-10-2013 at 14:05


They are in Canada by the way, and I am too, I don't even want to know the shipping price to US ha ha.



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[*] posted on 23-10-2013 at 14:08


Oh :(
I will investigate that.
EDIT: hmmm, they don't seem to ship to america, or any country besides canada that is. Could you try to see how much it would cost you to ship it?

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