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[*] posted on 12-10-2006 at 22:10
Ultra pure H2O


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Are therre any technochemistry tricks to make ultra pure water? Reverse osmosis isn't enough to get ultra pure water.
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[*] posted on 12-10-2006 at 23:48


There are a number, depending on the amounts and applications. Are you asking for a home lab method, historical methodes, or something that would be used industrially today?

http://www.google.com/search?num=20&lr=&q=%22ultra+p...
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[*] posted on 13-10-2006 at 06:15


Brauer gives methods.

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[*] posted on 13-10-2006 at 08:24


distillation from KMnO4 and then filtration through a carbon matrix cartridge and finally through a ion exchange resin cartridge (both from a reverse osmosis purification system)

I can get water below 0.1 mS conductivity.




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[*] posted on 13-10-2006 at 08:42


The KMnO4 distillation is the traditional way of removing organics and so on. Final distillation must be done using fused silica or tin plated condensers, ordinary borosilicate glass leaches out too much.

Distillation seems to be less common these days; filtration, R.O., carbon filters or pervaporation to remove volatile organics,, corona discharge or ozone to finish organics removal, ion exchange, and so on seem to be the processes on the higher volume routes.
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[*] posted on 16-10-2006 at 00:06


What is the most cheap process to do this? Like new technology that does this much cheaper. And why should we make ultra pure water in the first place? Is it that important?
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[*] posted on 16-10-2006 at 01:53


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What is the most cheap process to do this? Like new technology that does this much cheaper. And why should we make ultra pure water in the first place? Is it that important?


Cheapest depends on the feed water and the target requirements; like many simple questions there are a number of answers.

Why? Semiconductor manufacture, for one. Some research needs very pure water, other may only need low conductivity which can be slightly less pure than the #1 stuff.

Try a Web search for "unltra pure water"
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[*] posted on 19-10-2006 at 04:31


Does anyone know what kind of doctoral research I could do about this topic? Just to get ideas...
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[*] posted on 27-11-2015 at 09:25


Hi everyone!

Sorry for reopening such an old post, but I would like to know what do you currently think about the viability of obtaining ultra pure water (Milli-Q like) in the lab.

Thank you so much everybody!
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[*] posted on 27-11-2015 at 15:37


Just an idea - electrolyze water to get H2 and O2, then recombine them to get pure H2O. Recombination can be done at low temps on the surface of Pt catalyst! What do you think about this?
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[*] posted on 27-11-2015 at 16:48


I remember reading about ultrapure water when I was toying with plate capacitors and various dielectrics.
High electrical permittivity of ultrapure water at the water-platinum interface.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25258452
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