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Quote: Originally posted by Texium  | | Quote: Originally posted by beerwiz | | The small scale way is using MS with a large collector, if properly configured, it can do about 1g in less than 2 days. |
No, it most certainly can’t. Not even a real particle accelerator can achieve that level of yield. Once again, I can’t tell if
this is trolling or pure delusion. |
I believe that is actually in the ballpark of the production rate that was achieved by a single cell in the calutrons in the time of WW2. So, I guess
it is theoretically possible. I might have suspected beerwiz pulled that number from a paper about the calutrons, if only he had shown any evidence of
reading anything at all.
Oh well, good luck building a calutron, beerwiz. Should be easy peazy for someone of your caliber.
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Just for the record. If anyone is actually thinking of making nanometre powdered uranium.
1 The "lumps" will still be too big to let you separate the isotopes by centrifugation.
2 the powder will be spontaneously flammable in air.
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| Quote: Originally posted by phlogiston | | Quote: Originally posted by Texium | | Quote: Originally posted by beerwiz | | The small scale way is using MS with a large collector, if properly configured, it can do about 1g in less than 2 days. |
No, it most certainly can’t. Not even a real particle accelerator can achieve that level of yield. Once again, I can’t tell if
this is trolling or pure delusion. |
I believe that is actually in the ballpark of the production rate that was achieved by a single cell in the calutrons in the time of WW2. So, I guess
it is theoretically possible. I might have suspected beerwiz pulled that number from a paper about the calutrons, if only he had shown any evidence of
reading anything at all. |
My bad. I actually did try to find a source to back me up but wasn't able to do so
in a timely manner, so I settled for a gut feeling as that seemed in keeping with the general quality of this thread. 
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| Quote: Originally posted by beerwiz |
| Quote: Originally posted by Tsjerk |
Not if you, as beerwiz, can nanomize it and get perfect separation by putting it in a centrifuge. Then you only need a couple dozen kilograms from
which you can get that last bit of U-235. |
Do you think that will work? I can nanomize it easily in the 2-5nm range.
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I thought the sarcasm would be obvious, but no I don't think it will work. I'm absolutely sure it won't work. You need atoms to be able to move
independently to be able to seperate them by centrifugation. Maybe you should calculate how many atoms there are in a 2nm particle.
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I'm revising my original hypothesis to crystal meth.
We're not banging rocks together here. We know how to put a man back together.
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Here you go Beerwiz. This is how it is done.
Just a little bit of backyard engineering and away you go.
Plutonium Metal Preparation
(Seriously though: this came across my feed and I thought it rather interesting.)
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100 million dollars would be plenty to build something like this. You could even get your money back by selling the extra plutonium to a nonspecific
geographical location for their "nuclear energy projects".
“Alchemy is trying to turn things yellow; chemistry is trying to avoid things turning yellow.” -Tom deP.
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In the video, they conveniently started with plutonium nitrate solution. The actual problem is how to get -that-, or anything containing a significant
amount of plutonium at all.
The part in that video is the easy part.
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You're right, you would need something like a breeder reactor. The OP mentions he has access to an "infinite amount" of U-238.
Honestly though, it feels kind of useless to continue this discussion as this "billionaire researcher" has no idea what he's getting into.
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I don't think we're having this discussion to actually help the allegedly superintelligent billionaire researcher. He just provided a nice prompt to
have some chat among ourselves about interesting things/videos's etc we've learned about these kinds of processes to share with each other. We can
mess with him a bit along the way, as he is doing with us.
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I agree, isotopic separation processes are very interesting. I just feel like any amateur trying them would end up David Hahn chapter 2. We only need
to keep it theoretical.
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What is the smallest reactor possible using natural uranium only? CP1 used some 5 tonnes of uranium metal plus 40 tonnes of uranium oxide, but I'm
sure it can be made smaller using heavy water (1/10 the neutron absorption cross section).
We're not banging rocks together here. We know how to put a man back together.
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What's needed most is protective clothing:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lead_shielding
such as is worn by medical professionals when exposed to radiation  The end
results from the effort applied 
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Uranium is very toxic so perhaps those interested in such poison should know how to remove it The end results from the effort applied
Attachment: UraniumToxicity.zip (481kB)
This file has been downloaded 125 times
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| Quote: Originally posted by beerwiz | I want to run some tests on small amounts of pure Plutonium (239 or 241) and U235, just need about 1 gram of each. I am willing to pay, money is no
object, I can pay up to $100k per gram if need be. These are just for testing purposes and reference material.
Any ideas or advice on where I can buy them? I know sample amounts of Uranium ore are OTC, so I thought it wouldn't hurt to ask for a small reference
amount of Plutonium and U235.
If all else fails, can I synthesize or extract them myself? Just need 1 gram of each, that's all.
[Edited on 24-9-2023 by beerwiz] |
Beerwiz... You fedboys are glowing stronger than the demon core.
You write like a true fed.
GTFO!
[Edited on 3-4-2024 by Trashcanman]
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Pakistan was dumping their nuclear waste in Afghanistan in 2000s. Given the local conditions, waste is likely to be unguarded and either left on
surface or buried not so deep.
So everything beerwiz needs is a spade and one ticket to Afghanistan. Getting the found treasure out of the country would be the hardest part, but
some experiments can be carried out on site. If captured by Taliban, no need to worry, they are less radical than IS-KP and unlikely to behead you.
If you find anything interesting, beerwiz, send some samples to Idlib, Syria. Local researchers want to experiment a bit too.
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| Quote: Originally posted by EF2000 | Pakistan was dumping their nuclear waste in Afghanistan in 2000s. Given the local conditions, waste is likely to be unguarded and either left on
surface or buried not so deep.
So everything beerwiz needs is a spade and one ticket to Afghanistan. Getting the found treasure out of the country would be the hardest part, but
some experiments can be carried out on site. If captured by Taliban, no need to worry, they are less radical than IS-KP and unlikely to behead you.
If you find anything interesting, beerwiz, send some samples to Idlib, Syria. Local researchers want to experiment a bit too. |
I bet they already dug out a considerable amount of it and sold it to everyone who was willing to pay for it.
I can imagine a bunch of goatherders in Kandahar painting watches with a mix of nuclear waste and copper activated zinc sulfide xD
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Meh. I think it's far more likely he's just a highly delusional modern day wannabe alchemist, given
his post history contains mentions of "a project that has infinite ROI," "alchemical procedures," and to top it all off, literally saying he's "making the philosopher's stone." Just a kook through and through. That or a very dedicated troll who's been flying under the radar for a decade.
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I took a look at his older posts and must say that you are probably right.
He is completely nuts.
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| Quote: Originally posted by Sir_Gawain | | I agree, isotopic separation processes are very interesting. I just feel like any amateur trying them would end up David Hahn chapter 2. We only need
to keep it theoretical. |
I've always thought it would be interesting to try aerodynamic isotopic separation, it's the only method that's anywhere near amateur-accessible. This
would of course just be as a prof of concept and would use non-uranium isotopes.
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| Quote: Originally posted by beerwiz | | I want to run some tests on small amounts of pure Plutonium (239 or 241) and U235, just need about 1 gram of each. I am willing to pay, money is no
object, I can pay up to $100k per gram if need be. These are just for testing purposes and reference material.
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| Quote: Originally posted by beerwiz | | Yes, I have a complete disinterest in money, like I said, money is no object to me. Frankly, I'd even pay
$100million for 1 gram of each (...). |
Unfortunately, no. BUT, if you're interested, I can sell you a surplus of astatine fluoride. Since money is not an issue, I can send you 1 kilogram of
AtF for US$100 million, shipping tax included, anywhere in the world.
Shouldn't this post be in Whimsy, with the somewhat amusing trolling and all?
@CRUSTY: As in a Ranque-Hilsch tube?
[Edited on 7-7-2024 by bnull]
Quod scripsi, scripsi.
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| Quote: Originally posted by bnull |
Unfortunately, no. BUT, if you're interested, I can sell you a surplus of astatine fluoride. Since money is not an issue, I can send you 1 kilogram of
AtF for US$100 million, shipping tax included, anywhere in the world. |
Can't be too far though - there won't be much left! 
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| Quote: Originally posted by Precipitates | | Quote: Originally posted by bnull |
Unfortunately, no. BUT, if you're interested, I can sell you a surplus of astatine fluoride. Since money is not an issue, I can send you 1 kilogram of
AtF for US$100 million, shipping tax included, anywhere in the world. |
Can't be too far though - there won't be much left! |
No problem, it will be delivered by the sub-orbital point-to-point transportation system for some small additional shipping cost (something like
US$400 million, literally five kopeks), that includes cost of decontamination in case of launch failure.
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| Quote: Originally posted by EF2000 |
No problem, it will be delivered by the sub-orbital point-to-point transportation system for some small additional shipping cost (something like
US$400 million, literally five kopeks), that includes cost of decontamination in case of launch failure. |
Ahh that explains it. Easy if you have a few spare kopeks
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| Quote: Originally posted by Precipitates | | Quote: Originally posted by bnull |
Unfortunately, no. BUT, if you're interested, I can sell you a surplus of astatine fluoride. Since money is not an issue, I can send you 1 kilogram of
AtF for US$100 million, shipping tax included, anywhere in the world. |
Can't be too far though - there won't be much left! |
There is about that much... in the entire universe. An estimate was about 24 nanograms of astatine dsitributed on Earth.
By the way, wanna buy some? Fine stuff, the only reagent suitable for fluorination of photons. Glows in the dark, so it's also fun
for kids. And yes, I accept kopeks.
@EF2000: Misleading my prospective customers, eh?
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