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Unpopular answer… laziness. It’s a disgrace it’s still used. Everytime a warhead detonates with black smoke Nobel cries…
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Quote: Originally posted by MineMan ![](images/xpblue/lastpost.gif) | Unpopular answer… laziness. It’s a disgrace it’s still used. Everytime a warhead detonates with black smoke Nobel cries…
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Totally agree with this. Firstly it takes a huge amount of time an effort to optimise a process for the synthesis of an energetic compound from both a
safety and cost perspective. Once that is nailed it becomes very cost prohibitive to try something new. Even when you do come up with something new
you have to convince everyone else it is safe including industry and regulators. On top of that, you have the same issue with the end use, all the
calculations, processes and procedures are in place for the use of the material to maximise effectiveness and safety in use.
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Military companies still consider HNS experimental even though it flew to the moon. This is where China, with their advance at any cost (or rather
modest cost compared to the west) has the advantage.
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Quote: Originally posted by Alkoholvergiftung ![](images/xpblue/lastpost.gif) | Bevore and during WW1 French used an mix of 25% Trinitrokresol and 75% Picrid acid the meltingpoint was around 80 C. Trinitrokresol was an concurrent
for picrid acid in Austria and France. it is less acidic and lass sensitive. But also water soluble.The ammonium salt was in favour too but it was to
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Japan used cresols too in WWII. You use what you get from the feedstock available.
Dinitro aromatics can help lower the melting point of a mixture quite a bit but then you get leaky ammo.
About the smoke, yes... the black carbon smoke is ugly. I enjoy looking for the little white puff on top made by whatever the EOD used
The spirit of adventure was upon me. Having nitric acid and copper, I had only to learn what the words 'act upon' meant. - Ira Remsen
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