Sciencemadness Discussion Board
Not logged in [Login ]
Go To Bottom

Printable Version  
Author: Subject: Buy Diatoms and Radiolarians...how?
kazaa81
Hazard to Others
***




Posts: 368
Registered: 30-4-2004
Member Is Offline

Mood: ok

mad.gif posted on 9-6-2006 at 06:40
Buy Diatoms and Radiolarians...how?


Hi,

I was wondering if it's possible to buy diatoms and/or radiolarian cultures. I think it's quite difficult to maintain these microorganisms alive, but it might be worth a try.
The solutions I came closer was buying diatomaceous earth, but these diatoms are dead since some time!

Here http://www.sciencestuff.com/prod/PreparedSIndpro/Bio1005
says about an undefined quantity of mixed diatoms for $2.45....

About radiolarian, instead, not even a thing...just a site quite good for exchangin opinions with other interested
http://www.radiolaria.org
View user's profile View All Posts By User
kazaa81
Hazard to Others
***




Posts: 368
Registered: 30-4-2004
Member Is Offline

Mood: ok

[*] posted on 10-6-2006 at 04:31


Maybe I can plan to grow diatoms from fresh water, not or slightly treated (by water sterilization)?

Interesting things about what diatoms can need to grow is found into a commercial aquarium cleaning product, to eliminate diatoms :o quite strange...

from http://www.algone.com/diatoms.htm
about the causes of not controlled diatoms growth in aquarium

[...] excess nutrients, silicate and silicic acid are the ingredients for a diatom bloom. Silicic acid enters the aquarium by using tap water; substrate can contain silicates that leach out over time. RO/DI units can filter silicic acid out, but only for a limited time. Eliminating silicates can control diatoms. [...]

So, lots of silicates in our water to grow diatoms :D

In attachment there is an extract from Brauer about the preparation of silicic acids. The main component for doing this seems to be sodium silicate. This can be easily made from pieces of glass put in molten NaOH.

Any suggestion welcomed

[Edited on 10-6-2006 by kazaa81]

Attachment: Silicic Acids.txt (4kB)
This file has been downloaded 1282 times

View user's profile View All Posts By User
lordmagnus
Hazard to Self
**




Posts: 92
Registered: 10-1-2006
Location: Webster, TX
Member Is Offline

Mood: No longer annoyed ( I found a new girlfriend)

[*] posted on 10-6-2006 at 19:50


Yes, you will need a fair ammount of sillicate for the diatoms to build their shells out of.



I\'ll kill a man in a fair fight, or if I think he is gonna start a fair fight, or if he\'s bothrn me allot, or if I am getin payed good, or probably over a good woman.

-Jayne Cobb (Serenity)

View user's profile View All Posts By User This user has MSN Messenger
kazaa81
Hazard to Others
***




Posts: 368
Registered: 30-4-2004
Member Is Offline

Mood: ok

[*] posted on 11-6-2006 at 04:58


So, a dilute solution of sodium metasilicate (water glass) is enough? Or do I need to convert it to a silicic acid?
Also, can sodium silicate synthetized from molten NaOH and glass be suitable for the purpose of growing diatoms?

Sodium Metasilicate
Na2SiO3
CAS #: 6834-92-0
Mol. 122,064 g/mol
Form: white amorphous solid; hygroscopic
M.P. 1089°C
Density 2,61 g/cm^3
Soluble in cold H2O; reacts in hot H2O

(data from CRC handbook of chemistry and physics 85th edition)

Thanks all for help
View user's profile View All Posts By User
kazaa81
Hazard to Others
***




Posts: 368
Registered: 30-4-2004
Member Is Offline

Mood: ok

[*] posted on 15-6-2006 at 02:20


Tips on growing and controlling diatoms in an aquarium

http://www.advancedaquarist.com/2005/5/tips
View user's profile View All Posts By User
gil
Unregistered




Posts: N/A
Registered: N/A
Member Is Offline


wink.gif posted on 3-12-2006 at 15:16


what tips do you need! Just look closer/better!;):D




  Go To Top