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Herr Haber
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I wonder what NaCN would be useful for? I have like a kg of it, wondering if I should put some in my bug-out bag (kidding). |
Anyone played Fallout ?
I just imagined looting the grinning skeletons of a family around a campfire only to find a note explaining their suicide because of radiation
poisoning.
In that world, I expect Karlos would be making good use of brahmin dung fumes 
That makes me think that I'd go for lysergic acid diethylamide. It's the only reagent I consider you are 100% certain to get a reaction with 
Can I get a drum too ?!
The spirit of adventure was upon me. Having nitric acid and copper, I had only to learn what the words 'act upon' meant. - Ira Remsen
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| Quote: Originally posted by Herr Haber | When I offered to make KI individual doses I discovered people would actually be more interested in NaCN in case of apocalypse.
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That's fukt up. Says a lot about people was my first thought. 2nd thought was
how extensive and diverse was your research on the matter?
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SuperOxide
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| Quote: Originally posted by Herr Haber | When I offered to make KI individual doses I discovered people would actually be more interested in NaCN in case of apocalypse.
Weird. |
That's interesting.. I'm assuming they meant they wanted it for suicide, correct? I don't think cyanide poisoning is a very pleasant way to go (You
can find videos of people taking it in court after a guilty verdict). Something like inert gas asphyxiation would be more ideal (though not as
convenient).
Or maybe they just felt like doing some electroplating or gold extraction during the apocalypse?... lol
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Herr Haber
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| Quote: Originally posted by draculic acid69 |
That's fukt up. Says a lot about people was my first thought. 2nd thought was
how extensive and diverse was your research on the matter? |
Yes, well... research is a very generous word 
It's rather the recollection of having similar conversations over the years about the use of KI (how, when). I do have a lot of misanthropes among my
friends and many of them have extensive knowledge of caves, quarries, underground shelters etc.
In case of a nuclear power plant accident they will happily take the iodine, party underground for a couple of weeks and then take a peek topside.
But I also heard many simply say they dont like the world as it is and would like it even less if the nukes fell so they'd rather witness the blast in
all its glory than see people turn on each other etc. And have NaCN as a backup if the blast and neutron flash arent enough...
Most recent conversation was with a neighbour who is a bit chemophobe. When I tell her what I do some weekends she goes "lalalala I'm not listening".
She'd trust me more with a suicide pill than a refill of her hand sanitizer bottle. That I made, and she used ! She trusts me with her cat though...
Nope, dont always understand people...
I'm more in the process of upgrading my bug out bag. I'd like to see a nuclear winter with my own eyes so that means surviving till then.
The spirit of adventure was upon me. Having nitric acid and copper, I had only to learn what the words 'act upon' meant. - Ira Remsen
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I've been told that you can make the steam-activated charcoal quite easily (the other version is chemical activated).
I'd rather bring a small setup to manufacture this as needed, than the product itself.
However, how would you test for efficiency / problems in your end-product?
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Sodium dichloroisocyanurate crystals a more stable chlorine source
sodium hydroxide for soaps and silicate cements
silica gel for silicates and dessicant
potassium iodide for minor cuts and thyroid protection
isopropyl alcohol
ethyl alcohol
magnesium chips
wd-40
steel wool
Fellow molecular manipulator
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Probably some Nd2Fe14B and copper wire. Being able to generate electricity is a big plus.
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I hear pure dihydrogen monoxide is handy in an emergency. Just look at all of the people in Helene's way that can't seem to find it pure, despite it
being nearly everywhere.
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And simple hydrocarbons. Here in the South they are in very high demand.
“Alchemy is trying to turn things yellow; chemistry is trying to avoid things turning yellow.” -Tom deP.
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1) KMNO4, antiseptic, efficient, small amount goes long way and/or small chlorination set (cheap ebay/amazon/aliexpress one)
2) some basic meds, vitamins, paracetamol, ibuprofen, chloroform/ether as anaesthetic.
3) some Nd magnets and copper wire and/or small photovoltaic panel and/or dynamo for electric power generation. Small voltage and current would do.
4) borosilicate distillation kit. You can make most, if not all of substances from scratch, but without glass it can be next to impossible.
5) some H2SO4, out of the "big 3 mineral acids" its the most difficult to make. Sulphur is not everywhere available, and if it
is then it is not trivial to turn it into sulfuric. Hydrochloric and nitric are easy when you have sulfuric and still set. Precursors to make the
other 2 are literally everywhere.
6) KOH or NaOH, but only if there is a capacity. Its not that difficult to make them ghetto style using CaCO3, heat and wood ash. Wood ash
is everywhere, CaCO3 is also everywhere, if no rocks around then bones, eggshells or molluscs shells are sufficient source.
7) small amount of activated carbon for immediate use for water filtration. More can be easily made later on.
All the above assuming the scenario does not involve all live around being eradicated.
If it is a case of disappearance of all life around then couple litres of good quality ethanol for a bit of fun and gram or two (for good measure) per
person of KCN.
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