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Quote: Originally posted by DavidJR  |
It seems that is correct. On the basket you have to select the country, and although United Kingdom is in the list (which is not just the standard
list of every country, it's shorter than that) it just says there's no available shipping/payment methods. If I select Poland then that changes.
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I think you're right, Poland doesn't export much things on common market
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Isn't Onyxmet based in Poland? I've ordered from them many times.
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Yes, he is from Poland.
You can check also https://www.n2o3.com. I don't see any shipping restrictions there.
Regarding quality - I made 3 orders there. Sometimes you have to wait few weeks but quality and service is good.
The first time I bought something there the container of one of the chemicals broke in the transport. After a call they just asked if I can wait for
another one. One week later I received the product.
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I never ordered from these sites to be honest. I never paid attention to Onyxmet and n2o3 always seemed little too expensive for me in comparison to
other sites.
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Are they still active? Because no one responded to my order the last nearly four days. Or do I have to write in polish? I wrote in english, because
the website apart from polish is also in english
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mackolol
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| Quote: Originally posted by Tellurium |
Are they still active? Because no one responded to my order the last nearly four days. Or do I have to write in polish? I wrote in english, because
the website apart from polish is also in english |
They suck in e-mail responsing, that's why I always phonecall them. I wanted to order o chlorobenzoic acid from them since december though, but they
had some problems with moving the company to another place and the guy didn't care enough to find the last bits of it in stock and now, due to
epidemy, you won't order much from them and my OCBA is gone :'/ . That's why, I believe they don't give any responses for emails.
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Well good to know, thanks! I'll try to call them!(hope they understand english lol).
I really would like to help you out with OCBA, but mine is also gone since a few days  But just take Phthalimide(or make it from phthalic anhydride and ammonia) and make a Hofmann rearrangement(I used NaOH and Br2, but you
can also use NaOCl) to get Anthranilic acid. And then just make a diazotation followed by a sandmeyer with CuCl - thats how I got mine 
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Let us know how that went! I tried ordering ~50 items by email and would hate to have to relay all that over the phone to someone who doesn't
understand me D:
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I didn't reached anyone through the phone yet, maybe they don't work on saturdays. I'll try again some other day.
Well I guess we both have the same problem, I also tried to order quite a lot
Just curious: When did you send your email?
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I must say that the prices on reagents from the listed Polish companies are absolutely mind-blowingly reasonable. If any/all of them do EU shipping,
then that is like a dream come true.
Would it be reasonable to say that only the most 'watched' of reagents such as Phenylacetone would be problematic to order, I wonder?
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Oh yeah, its absolutely mindblowing how cheap stuff can be there! You won't be on the watchlist as fast, as when you are ordering stuff for example in
germany(I know someone that ordered Acetone and beakers and had the police coming, absolutely ridiculous ). But still I wouldn't order stuff like Phenylacetone, or 4-Bromo-2,5-Dimethoxybenzaldehyde(offered along with
2,5-Dimethoxybenzaldehyde and a lot of other "suspicious" stuff on ebay by seller aldehydcom), because everyone knows, what this is used for, and most
of these things don't have other legitimate uses Also Phenylacetone can be made
quite easily! Just for fun I did a small scale synthesis using freshly prepared Bromoacetone and Benzene using a two times molar excess of AlCl3. Even
2,5-Dimethoxybenzaldehyde isn't that hard to make, I'm currently working on that as my next video project Maybe I will instead make 2-Ethoxy-5-Methoxybenzaldehyde, but the process is exactly the same, maybe I'm also doing
both
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| Quote: Originally posted by Tellurium | | ...Even 2,5-Dimethoxybenzaldehyde isn't that hard to make, I'm currently working on that as my next video project... |
That's cool - I very much look forwards to your video. 
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Thanks! I already tried the reaction out yesterday, but my addition phunnel didn't hold the CHCl3 when pouring in so the Reimer-Thiemann-Reaction
rised to over 70°C evaporating off all the Chloroform and giving me a ton of tar without any isolatable product 
And I have to wait to get new Chloroform from Mario. But in the meantime there will be a synthesis of 5-MeO-Tryptamine, if the reaction today works,
like it is supposed to
In regards to ordering from poland:
Today I nearly fell for a polish website, that looks like a scam website! I even placed my order, but I won't pay and cancel the order!
This Paraformaldehyde looked very cheap, even cheaper, than buying 1kg somewhere else, so I wanted to get that and sell the remaining 24kg very cheap
here on SM.
But it appears, like the trusted shops Icon is completely fake, which is extremely suspicious! Also for a website, that you will find nearly no
information about a visitor count of 14074463 seems way to high! That is the german website, that I found(which is polish in parts anyways, they also
have a website, thats entirely in polish).
Thats the website: https://galvet.de/paraformaldehyd-25kg-transport-adr-un-2213...
After searching for them on facebook I even found someone, that claimed to have ordered for there and never got anything - thanks god(or the flying
spaghetti monster), that I haven't paid yet
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First mail was sent late March, second one late April.
Christ, finding anything on that website is terrible. :/
I'm wondering if you could use a reshiping service from Poland to order at Pol-Aura? I'm drooling all over their catalogue. Pricey, but I see all
sorts of things I never knew I wanted.
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| Quote: Originally posted by Tellurium | Well good to know, thanks! I'll try to call them!(hope they understand english lol).
I really would like to help you out with OCBA, but mine is also gone since a few days But just take Phthalimide(or make it from phthalic anhydride and ammonia) and make a Hofmann rearrangement(I used NaOH and Br2, but you
can also use NaOCl) to get Anthranilic acid. And then just make a diazotation followed by a sandmeyer with CuCl - thats how I got mine |
I tried it, but haven't obtained any product and to be honest I don't want to use my precious anthranillic acid for making OCBA because I hate the
reaction, it's complicated and annoying.
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More shops:
https://warchem.pl/
https://chemik.aip.pl/
http://www.pyrogarage.pl/chemicals.htm
https://zielonyklub.pl/
https://www.agani.pl/category/en/surowce
https://www.zrobsobiekrem.pl/pl/i/O-nas/1
https://ichemia.pl/
https://sklep-chemland.pl/en/
https://envolab.pl/sklep/
https://biochemia.com.pl/
https://organicchemistrypoland.pl/
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The last 2 look like police honeypots
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And you are right, according to a message from my good friend (info from the beginning of last year), the first one is constantly monitored by the
police and even changed the company to a colleague, while the second one has frequent checks and contact with him is also quite risky.
Unfortunately, the police can also use the Internet and the products offered (even phenylacetic acid) do not pass without attention.
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TGSpecialist1 thanks for the big list !!!
I recommend chemland, I've bought a lot of glass from this company. They also sell reagents but only after providing business ID, these are very cheap
though only very limited (circa 20 reagents today like inorganic acids, solvents like methanol, dichlormethane, acetone, isopropanol).
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allegro.pl is like polish eBay. There is a ton of stuff on there, but even though there are some links in english at the bottom of the site, the
interface is only in polish.
Some sellers I collected:
Hadron: https://allegro.pl/uzytkownik/chemdreamland ,
https://allegro.pl/uzytkownik/kemikals ,
https://allegro.pl/uzytkownik/KeteN-33 here they sell, some cool stuff like diethyl eter, methylamine(with bussiness ID but still), KMnO4,
hydrogen iodide, a kg of sodium, potassium chloroplatinate,
https://allegro.pl/uzytkownik/Chemia1902 - 1l HCl for 10pln, is the only reason to put em here,
https://allegro.pl/uzytkownik/AKTYN_POZNAN ,
https://allegro.pl/uzytkownik/SELKAT_PL , a TON of powdered metal and other stuff,
https://allegro.pl/uzytkownik/warchem_spzoo official warchem's store,
https://allegro.pl/uzytkownik/biomus_natura a lot of stuff cheap
If you're on PC you can do something like this
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Do you know if the sellers there also ship inside the EU?
I guess it will be very expensive, as most shipping from poland is.
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karlos³ shipping from Poland is not so expensive, I ordered lab glass few times already at scale like 250 pieces which arrived on wooden palette and
of volume > 0,5 m3 and the shipment was always like 20 EUR, but we are neighboring countries... the courier was always Raben (for such bulky
packages)
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A pallet of glass cost me about 40€ when I ordered it from PL sometime ago. Normal packages from courier services tend to cost between 15 to 30 €,
so I don't see it getting expensive.
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| Quote: Originally posted by karlos³ | Do you know if the sellers there also ship inside the EU?
I guess it will be very expensive, as most shipping from poland is. |
afaik it used to be like "allegro's international shipping" that was like 30 PLN, but now they changed some policies and I guess you're now supposed
to ask the seller about international shipping
you also have to make an account to buy
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Well, I meant "expensive", which is around 30€, not really expensive, but in comparison really.
Especially from poland to germany, when I pay 30€ for this I feel ripped off.
When other countries next door, one border, and even further away, still cost rarely half as much.
Guess the only polish supplier who was a nice exception, for me personally, was Tom from onyxmet so far.
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