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j_sum1
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If two established members report spam with the single word, "spam" then it activates a script to delete all posts/threads by that user and bans the
account.
For most efficient use
1. Make sure you include the word, "spam"
2. Do not post anything in the thread
3. Take a look at the view count and try to target threads that are likely to have been reported already.
4. You only need to report one thread per username.
Admittedly the script is not always effective. There are a few known issues and possibly some unknown issues. But when it runs the spam is vaporised
pretty quickly.
So, yes. Spam reporting does work. It is vastly preferable to leaving it there, logging off and coming back later. If everyone reported a couple of
spammers per visit then the board would be a lot cleaner. As it is, yhere are probably only 20 or so members who are regularly reporting but I know
there are plenty more frustrated with the problem.
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Quote: Originally posted by j_sum1  | If two established members report spam with the single word, "spam" then it activates a script to delete all posts/threads by that user and bans the
account.
For most efficient use
1. Make sure you include the word, "spam"
2. Do not post anything in the thread
3. Take a look at the view count and try to target threads that are likely to have been reported already.
4. You only need to report one thread per username.
Admittedly the script is not always effective. There are a few known issues and possibly some unknown issues. But when it runs the spam is vaporised
pretty quickly.
So, yes. Spam reporting does work. It is vastly preferable to leaving it there, logging off and coming back later. If everyone reported a couple of
spammers per visit then the board would be a lot cleaner. As it is, yhere are probably only 20 or so members who are regularly reporting but I know
there are plenty more frustrated with the problem. |
Is that what "TestAccount" is for?
Reporting spam feels like trying to empty out the Pacific Ocean with a spoon. Who wrote the script anyway? And in what language?
The first step in the process of learning something is admitting that you don't know it already.
I'm givin' the spam shields max power at full warp, but they just dinna have the power! We're gonna have to evacuate to new forum software!
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| Quote: Originally posted by j_sum1 | If two established members report spam with the single word, "spam" then it activates a script to delete all posts/threads by that user and bans the
account.
For most efficient use
1. Make sure you include the word, "spam"
2. Do not post anything in the thread
3. Take a look at the view count and try to target threads that are likely to have been reported already.
4. You only need to report one thread per username.
Admittedly the script is not always effective. There are a few known issues and possibly some unknown issues. But when it runs the spam is vaporised
pretty quickly.
So, yes. Spam reporting does work. It is vastly preferable to leaving it there, logging off and coming back later. If everyone reported a couple of
spammers per visit then the board would be a lot cleaner. As it is, yhere are probably only 20 or so members who are regularly reporting but I know
there are plenty more frustrated with the problem. |
You forgot to mention how satisfying it is when you report a spammer and their stuff disappears.
Folk might lie to try it.
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fusso
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| Quote: Originally posted by j_sum1 | | So, yes. Spam reporting does work. It is vastly preferable to leaving it there, logging off and coming back later. If everyone reported a couple of
spammers per visit then the board would be a lot cleaner. As it is, yhere are probably only 20 or so members who are regularly reporting but I know
there are plenty more frustrated with the problem. |
That means spams won't go away if I report spams everyday
while keeping myself logged in for a long time?
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j_sum1
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@fusso
Sorry if i was unclear. Report spammers. Every bit helps.
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streety
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I thought there were 3 types of member the spam deletion script considered:
Admins/Mods
Trusted reporter - A hard coded list of members
Established members - a member for 6 months and 50 posts?
A spam report from a single admin/mod triggers deletion.
A spam report from both a trusted reporter and an established member can also trigger the deletion script.
I may be wrong but this was my understanding.
The script I wrote should escalate the spam report from a single member when the post has spam-like features. Hopefully this can be deployed soon. It
does seem like the spam is getting worse.
[Edited on 7-10-2018 by streety] Yesterday was anomalous with spam sticking around for an unusually long time.
The trend is troubling though. Both the number of spam posts and the time taken to delete them is increasing.
 
[Edited on 7-10-2018 by streety]
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fusso
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Why can't we have the report function to also target the user alongside with individual posts (ie report the user directly, instead of his
posts)??
Edit: the spambot OFFERVEASSIDA has spammed almost 50 posts up till now and I think someone would be interested to investigate about it.
[Edited on 07/10/18 by fusso]
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S.C. Wack
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| Quote: Originally posted by j_sum1 | | If two established members report spam with the single word, "spam" then it activates a script to delete all posts/threads by that user and bans the
account. |
So...anyone who quickly spams or sock puppets 100 posts can delete anyone they choose and all their posts, eh what?
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| Quote: Originally posted by S.C. Wack | | Quote: Originally posted by j_sum1 | | If two established members report spam with the single word, "spam" then it activates a script to delete all posts/threads by that user and bans the
account. |
So...anyone who quickly spams or sock puppets 100 posts can delete anyone they choose and all their posts, eh what? |
I dont't think any trusted members would want to delete another real member unless they want to revenge?
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| Quote: Originally posted by fusso | | Quote: Originally posted by S.C. Wack | | Quote: Originally posted by j_sum1 | | If two established members report spam with the single word, "spam" then it activates a script to delete all posts/threads by that user and bans the
account. |
So...anyone who quickly spams or sock puppets 100 posts can delete anyone they choose and all their posts, eh what? |
I dont't think any trusted members would want to delete another real member unless they want to revenge? |
No but a spammer quickly creating 2 accounts and spamming 100 posts with each account would give him the power to delete any account. Scarry, I'm not
sure that's a good idea.
Apart from that, it gives me confidence that reporting spam actually is useful (at least when I'll have 100 posts. Gotta spam till I get there  )
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@ fusso, did you nominate yourself member of the day? Really?
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S.C. Wack
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The 100 I mentioned is 2x50. So there's a 6 months thing too? Long before the spam and even more so now I'm convinced there is at least 1 person here
who could meet this standard even if it required 5 members, probably also responsible for the spam.
BTW I did this with OFFERVEASSIDA's oldest post and if I had any effect, apparently OFFERVEASSIDA reregistered immediately, or the script only deletes
posts made before the report. EDIT: the situation is fluid...never mind.
[Edited on 7-10-2018 by S.C. Wack]
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| Quote: Originally posted by Heptylene | | Quote: Originally posted by fusso | | Quote: Originally posted by S.C. Wack | | Quote: Originally posted by j_sum1 | | If two established members report spam with the single word, "spam" then it activates a script to delete all posts/threads by that user and bans the
account. |
So...anyone who quickly spams or sock puppets 100 posts can delete anyone they choose and all their posts, eh what? |
I dont't think any trusted members would want to delete another real member unless they want to revenge? |
No but a spammer quickly creating 2 accounts and spamming 100 posts with each account would give him the power to delete any account. Scarry, I'm not
sure that's a good idea. |
No, I mean only members in the 'trusted' group in Polverone's list, not
'semi'-trusted. Therefore spamming 100 posts won't give you such status.
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Yes... but a few days ago
And how come this OFFERVEASSIDA can still spam posts after all its posts deleted?!(ノ#`Д´)ノ彡┻━┻
[Edited on 07/10/18 by fusso]
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streety
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My understanding is that the automated deletion script has some hard limits. Some are deliberate and others are limitations.
I think it only works for new members (a day old?) so even if two members with trusted reporter status decided to go rogue they couldn't delete the
account of anyone posting here. I think I'm the newest member and it would need to be a deliberate action by an admin.
The limitation is it can only handle certain types of posts. OFFERVEASSIDA both created new topics and also posted to existing topics which is more
unusual. I think if a spam account posts to a topic and there are then posts from a legitimate member the automatic script is unable to delete it.
I hope my comment did not alarm anyone. The script seems to be quite conservative and the risk is, I think deliberately, weighted towards not deleting
a spam member rather than erroneously deleting a real member.
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fusso
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| Quote: Originally posted by streety | My understanding is that the automated deletion script has some hard limits. Some are deliberate and others are limitations.
I think it only works for new members (a day old?) so even if two members with trusted reporter status decided to go rogue they couldn't delete the
account of anyone posting here. I think I'm the newest member and it would need to be a deliberate action by an admin.
The limitation is it can only handle certain types of posts. OFFERVEASSIDA both created new topics and also posted to existing topics which is more
unusual. I think if a spam account posts to a topic and there are then posts from a legitimate member the automatic script is unable to delete it.
I hope my comment did not alarm anyone. The script seems to be quite conservative and the risk is, I think deliberately, weighted towards not deleting
a spam member rather than erroneously deleting a real member. |
A better way is to move the reported posts to
a hidden forum and have the mods decide whether that's spam or not. And make trusted members immune to being deleted completely.
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I'm sure I'm not the only one wondering what's going on at the moment spam-wise.
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Melgar
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Well, woelen just gave me spam-fighting powers, part for fighting spam and part for the continuing board transition. I didn't know what I was getting
myself into. Now every time I switch pages, I have a whole bunch of new U2U messages from posts that have been reported, and in most cases, that no
longer exist.
But I'd had some ideas for finding and destroying spam in the works, so now I can actually implement them.
I know Kung Fu.
The first step in the process of learning something is admitting that you don't know it already.
I'm givin' the spam shields max power at full warp, but they just dinna have the power! We're gonna have to evacuate to new forum software!
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Would it be possible to have the forum software automatically delete:
1. posts in Russian?
2. posts with the word sex in the title?
The single most important condition for a successful synthesis is good mixing - Nicodem
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| Quote: Originally posted by Melgar | Well, woelen just gave me spam-fighting powers, part for fighting spam and part for the continuing board transition. I didn't know what I was getting
myself into. Now every time I switch pages, I have a whole bunch of new U2U messages from posts that have been reported, and in most cases, that no
longer exist.
But I'd had some ideas for finding and destroying spam in the works, so now I can actually implement them.
I know Kung Fu.
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Wow congrats Melgar! Now you can
help reduce j_sum1 and tex's pressure!
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streety
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Congrats Melgar!
You probably already know but I think you can turn the alerts off in the profile.
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XEvilBestSmilk has just been re-registered and retired by WGTR
Now the password for this spammer's username will be scrambled with random alpha-numeric characters and animal shapes. Good riddance.
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| Quote: Originally posted by XEvilBestSmilk | | Now the password for this spammer's username will be scrambled with random alpha-numeric characters and animal shapes. Good riddance.
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So you think you can fool us by pretending a spambot, PhD?
[Edited on 18/10/09 by fusso]
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No, that was actually me, haha.
That was a particularly obnoxious spammer that I took certain liberties with after I reported it's posts. Once the spammer's posts are removed the
account itself is deleted. I simply re-registered the same username to prevent the spammer from reusing it, and then made one post to discourage Bert
from deleting it as part of a sweep on zero-post accounts. I do this sometimes when the same name is constantly being registered over and over again.
I find this activity to be therapeutic. What kinds of activities on ScienceMadness do you find to be therapeutic?
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| Quote: Originally posted by WGTR | No, that was actually me, haha.
That was a particularly obnoxious spammer that I took certain liberties with after I reported it's posts. Once the spammer's posts are removed the
account itself is deleted. I simply re-registered the same username to prevent the spammer from reusing it, and then made one post to discourage Bert
from deleting it as part of a sweep on zero-post accounts. I do this sometimes when the same name is constantly being registered over and over again.
I find this activity to be therapeutic. What kinds of activities on ScienceMadness do you find to be therapeutic? |
Well I think this question should be discussed in another thread haha
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