kazaa81
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Mushrooms chemicals extraction...
Hello to all,
I've found which chemical of mushrooms is a not well developed branch of chemistry, but it can be funny and cheap (autumn isn't too far) to
experiment with.
I would advise which i'm not trying to get myself drugged, like the ones at http://www.shamanic-extracts.com/xcart/customer/home.php
(it was found by searching on google mushroom chemical extraction), just experiment with mushrooms.
So, has anyone experience extracting alkaloids (muscarine) or other substances (amanitine, ibotenic acid....) from mushrooms, like in the Amanita
genre?
Thanks at all for help!
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mick
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I am not an expert but apparently one way might be to get some one else to eat the said mushrooms and either drink their urine or extract the stuff
from it.
mick
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kazaa81
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mick, I hope you're joking.....
Amanita genre of mushrooms are almost all poisonous so...I think isn't needed to explain other!
I would try to extract chemicals from mushrooms (poisonous ones) with petroleum ether....i've read something about this at http://www.ibiblio.org/herbmed/eclectic/kings/fungi.html , so I hope something would work...
Any information / experience welcomed
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Sway
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This link might offer some direction:
http://www.erowid.org/plants/mushrooms/mushrooms_journal1.sh...
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mick
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I am probably wrong but I am not joking. I have read that reindeers in lapland like these type of mushrooms, which being a bit cold I can understand,
and a lot of the phyco-active stuff comes out in the piss.
mick
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kazaa81
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Thanks Sway! (you've made the first step at helping me).
mick, i'm not saying which what you've wrote is not true, but not pratical. If one want to try what you've wrote, it will try on an
animal....
Chemical of mushrooms is so rich of toxins and other substances...
Any information / experience welcomed!
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kazaa81
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Not found anything about extractions of mushrooms alkaloids/toxins/chemicals, but found a somewhat good guide to mushrooms growing: http://www.shroomery.org/index/par/23593
I want to try this as soon I will take some spores from mushrooms in the forest near me. It would be funny and useful! Anyone want also to try this?
Any experience and informations welcomed!
[Edited on 18-9-2005 by kazaa81]
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Mushroom Cultivation
You're welcome, kazaa81. Some folks might say I have experience in growing Psilocybe cubensis, but I would never admit to it because of its
illegality in the US.
Collecting spores from a mushroom found in an uncontrolled enviroment (such as your nearby forest) could create problems of contamination. Obtaining
a spore print from a cap is a simple, but careful procedure. The goal then is to make a spore solution for a syringe to inoculate a substrate. An
ideal solution contains only the spores of your specimen. Unless you have a microscope to identify and remove unwanted spores, I'd consider
buying a premade syringe from one of shroomery.org's sponsors.
This link describes a psilocybin extraction:
http://www.cognitiveliberty.org/shulgin/adsarchive/extractio...
Here is more info:
http://www.erowid.org/plants/mushrooms/mushrooms_journal.sht...
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kazaa81
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Thank you Sway!
Ok, you've experience in growing cubensis, but have you also tried to grow other types? I will try to make incubation jars soon, but first I have
to buy some vermiculite. For obtaining spores, I will pick up some big mushrooms and close tightly them in a jar. "If you're interested in
mushrooms, mushrooms will go to you", that is what I thought when I saw some "Auriculus auricola-judae" in my house garden. Will they
grow on non-wood cakes?
Thanks at all for help! 
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The main alkaloids in the Amanita muscaria mushroom such as muscimol and ibotenic acid are water soluble. I would imagine that an extract could be
easily done with just water. I've also read that A. muscaria can be made edible by briefly boiling the mushroom and throwing out the water.
Since A. muscaria are very common where I live I've actually tried this and they're not too bad tasting. However, I was a little too
nervous to eat a large amount but there were no intoxicating effects.
I've read in multiple sources that the intoxicating chemicals in A. muscaria are passed through the urine. The ibotenic acid has unpleasent
side effects such as nausea but upon dehydration is coverted to muscimol which has the more desirable effects. Supposedly the ibotenic acid is more
completely transformed into muscimol in the human body and then released into the urine producing a superior high. I haven't tried this.
Remember there are very many Amanita mushrooms out there and they range from the deadly poisenous such as the Destroying Angel (nice name) to being
prized for there taste, Amanita Caesarea. I believe the toxins in Destroying Angel are a rather complex peptide and am unsure how one would extract
this peptide. If I feel like procrastinating some more I'll see if I can find the journal article I vaguely remember reading. A. muscaria is
not particulary toxic however.
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kazaa81
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Thanks for the infos. you've post, epck!
I want to advise you which this thread won't talk about drugs and their consume, so do not post words about this.
Thanks
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Just remember
All mushrooms are edible -once.
[Edited on 1-10-2005 by unionised]
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kazaa81
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It's like to say: everyone can fly by itself...for one second (by jumping).
So, if one must post these things, please DO NOT post. Thanks! 
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This topic caught my interest very much so about this time last year. I happened to spot an Amanita M. growing close to my old appartment. I thought
to myself, those mushrooms get you high don't they? Since then I have done a fair amount of research. I found that there is not much information
on these mushrooms. I actually posted a topic similar to this on the shroomery, stating that I could not find any information on extracting muscimol
or ibotenic acid from these mushrooms. One of the seasoned members informed me that extracting ibotenic acid from these mushrooms is a long drawn out
process that does not produce yields worth while. Not to mention that his associate that performed the procedure had access to a professional lab.
Sure ibotenic acid and muscimol are soluble in water, but so are many of the other mycotoxins that are present in these mushrooms. From the studying
that I have done, I have come to the conclusion that it is best to stay away from these kinds of mushrooms. They can very easily make you violently
sick if not prepared correctly. Also, they are in the amanita genius which happens to contain some of the most deadly "look alike" species
known to man. If you’re thinking about playing with amanitas, one word comes to mind- DONT!!!!
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I got into collecting wild mushrooms to eat a while ago. There are a lot of edible wild mushrooms but most of them taste crap, nothing like what you
buy in the shop. In general they are full of magots if you do not pick them early enough. If you find the good edible ones like the giant puff ball,
cep, field mushroom, horseshoe mushroom, field blewit they can be good. The best I found was the shaggy ink cap (lawyers wig), if you pick them while
they are still under ground (a bit like truffles) they are excellent.
Poisoned myself once with mushrooms, 3 am on the toilet with a bowl to throw up into and one of the worst headaches I have ever had. It took 2 days to
get over it, I was younger then.
My policy with wild mushrooms is never to touch anything with white gills unless known eg oyster.
As said before check out the colour of the spore print.
mick
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