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[*] posted on 5-8-2005 at 16:20


I thought about it today at work, and I was thinking i liked the idea of just disolving the rods HCl. Since AgCl is insoluble and every thing else just stays in solution. The only thing is where to go once I have silver chloride? Is there an easy way to convert it into silver nitrate? I would much rather have silver nitrate than silver chloride.



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[*] posted on 5-8-2005 at 17:48


The silver shouldn't be attacked, providing you exclude oxygen from the acid.
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[*] posted on 5-8-2005 at 18:24


What about using aqua regia?



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[*] posted on 5-8-2005 at 21:12


Aqua regia will give you silver chloride, it impedes further chemical action. It's a common problem with high silver alloys and why gold refiners dilute the alloy with copper: makes it easier for the silver to go into soln.
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[*] posted on 6-8-2005 at 17:33


so since the alloy I have is such a low percentage of silver, no silver chloride will precipitate?



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[*] posted on 6-8-2005 at 20:01


At 5% silver, you might still have problems with silver chloride buildup on the outside of the metal that is being digested. I suggest melting it and shotting it (to get rid of phosphorus by melting in an oxidizing atmosphere). Then dissolvein nitric acid which will put everything into solution assuming it's just copper, silver, palladium, and less noble base fillers.

Do you know the exact composition of the alloy?
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[*] posted on 7-8-2005 at 15:49


I just checked ebay, and the sil-phos silver solder is going for &12.50 a pound plus $4 shipping. Why mess with purifying it? Sell it and save yourself the trouble. If you just want silver you can buy it with the profits. A happy solution ;-)



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[*] posted on 7-8-2005 at 17:56


I agree, you can make a lot more money by selling it for what it is than by refining it.
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[*] posted on 9-8-2005 at 03:27
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aqua disolve watch out for the no2 gas.
if you dont get any gas its not working.
make aqua from one part nitric acid to 3 parts hydrochloric.
once disolved distill multiple time but never to dryness by adding hydrochloric acid when nearly dry.
once all nitric is gone dilute with water
then percipitate with your choice of reducing agent (ferrous ion, oxalic or formic acid, sulfites and so2, metalic zinc
ect ect)

collect your gold and wish you lived in oz near a reef :)
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[*] posted on 9-8-2005 at 03:32
now other metals


if you want the plat group out of a solution it gets harder.
you must be more selective of your reducing agents.
first a oxalic acid drop is my choice then
ammonium chloride to get the group.
fire up the group then redisolve in clean
aqua.
oxidize solution to put palladium in a different oxidation state than platinium.
drop Pt with ammonium chloride. then
make solution basic with ammonia to drop
Pd :)

if you want silver buy a braclet
Os and others are realy hard and require
molten alkali disolves (realy nasty)
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[*] posted on 9-8-2005 at 03:39
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silver will not disolve in aqua but it will disolve in nitric acid.
if you do an aqua disolve and find white powder at the bottom of you flask you could possibly have silver.
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