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Purple floating liquid on CuCO3?
Hello all,
After synthesis and filtration of CuCO3 I heated it on a hot plate. The solid melted ??? and formed a strange purple floating layer on the top ???
Does anyone know the cause of that?
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You need to describe your synthesis first. W/o it no one can make any significant pronouncements re. what is causing the purple colour.
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It's the standard NaHCO3 and CuSO4 precipitation.
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You need to specify quantities.
I think poorly washed basic copper carbonate (CuCO3 DOESN'T exist, only basic copper carbonate does) gave cuprate which is blue. Blue +
green gives purple.
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Copper
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Ok thanks,
As I had a good amount of very concentrated (near saturated) copper sulfate solution I just added baking soda until effervescence ceased. It was
filtered using coffee filters and washed twice with distilled water. Then it was scooped and placed into the 100mL beaker.
Also I don't think blue and green will give purple, instead it gives turquoise.
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Remarkable.
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Dubious.
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blogfast25
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No.
Many know I have 'a thing' for basic copper carbonate, primarily because of the stubborn belief in the non-existent CuCO3.
See also this lengthy thread:
http://www.sciencemadness.org/talk/viewthread.php?tid=50822
Methinks you have a bit of a 'grudge management problem' that might be clouding your judgement somewhat.
[Edited on 30-12-2015 by blogfast25]
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There are several normal double carbonates of copper and other elements; check out Juangodoyite it ranges from deep blue violet to a lilac colour. It
is Na2Cu(CO3)2 but sparingly soluble but other ratios of Na to Cu may be more soluble, looks reasonable.
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Quote: Originally posted by Boffis | There are several normal double carbonates of copper and other elements; check out Juangodoyite it ranges from deep blue violet to a lilac colour. It
is Na2Cu(CO3)2 but sparingly soluble but other ratios of Na to Cu may be more soluble, looks reasonable.
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Nice find and I'd never heard of that mineral before. But I find it hard to see how it could form in OP's conditions, though...
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Quote: Originally posted by Boffis | There are several normal double carbonates of copper and other elements; check out Juangodoyite it ranges from deep blue violet to a lilac colour. It
is Na2Cu(CO3)2 but sparingly soluble but other ratios of Na to Cu may be more soluble, looks reasonable.
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Are there any methods of making these double carbonates?
Check out the ScienceMadness Wiki: http://www.sciencemadness.org/smwiki/index.php/Main_Page
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Maybe heating mixture of Cu2(OH)2CO3+ Na2CO3+ NaHCO3 up to boiling point of water but under calcination of NaHCO3 it is just a guess but not so hard
to try so good luck.
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