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[*] posted on 29-9-2015 at 08:39
Useful parts in a broken AC unit?


Are there any useful components, metals, etc. in an AC unit? I happen to have a broken one right now. It's a large whole-house one, not a little window unit. I'm pretty sure there is a decent amount of copper piping in there, but I don't know much about AC units. What else can I get out of it? And yes, I am aware of potentially toxic substances inside.
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[*] posted on 29-9-2015 at 08:48


Yes, that copper coil is worth a few bucks. I tried to salvage my old one. The workers told me they counted on the salvage money when they bid my job. So I left it to them.

I thought I could salvage the fan for my hood. But it did not have the right pressure/flow characteristics. That is, it was designed to move a lot of air at a low pressure drop. A hood fan needs to be able to move less air but at a higher pressure drop.




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[*] posted on 29-9-2015 at 09:27


If the compressor is still good you can use it as a vacuum pump/air compressor. As Magpie says, the thing is full of copper or aluminum tubing, which might be of some use. Certainly keep both fans. There is usually a large blower for the condenser coils on the outside part and a smaller, higher pressure squirrel-cage type for the inside air. There should also be some switches and dials that could be useful, and possibly some thermocouples.



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[*] posted on 29-9-2015 at 10:33


As already metioned, copper pipes and the pump are probably the two most interesting bits in it. There might also be some refrigeration gas that's worth savaging if you've got equipment to do so... HCFC or something alike.



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[*] posted on 29-9-2015 at 16:34


Maybe you could turn it into a condenser water cooler. You could re-bend the tubing to go into a water tank and move the water with a low pressure pump. It might involve a new motor or recharging the cylinder with propane or ammonia. For the latter a different orifice would be needed but I think propane will substitute straight across. Recycling water is a good thing!



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[*] posted on 30-9-2015 at 10:18


Thanks for the ideas. I'll start taking it apart this weekend to see what I can salvage.
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[*] posted on 30-9-2015 at 10:38


There's also heating elements in them for the emergency heat system. These are likely made of nichrome or kanthal, or another similar high resistance alloy. I salvaged the ones from my old AC a couple months ago. I haven't figured out what to do with them yet. I also kept the squirrel cage fan, which I'm planning on attaching a standard plug to, fitting it with protective metal grates and setting it on a rolling cart. I'll use it to cool off and air out my lab on hot days. My grandfather rigged up a fan like that and it moves a ton of air for its size.



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[*] posted on 30-9-2015 at 14:23


Quote: Originally posted by Magpie  
The workers told me they counted on the salvage money when they bid my job.

There is the Clue.

Scrap it as-is, get the $ for the scrap, then use those $ to buy what you really want.

(personally i'd tear it apart just to see what is in there, then get bored and leave the bits lying all over the place)




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[*] posted on 30-9-2015 at 18:33


i found two compressors discarded on a dead end street by thieves who only wanted the copper.a few dollars worth of copper cost someone at least 7-10 thousand dollars somewhere.the compressors were full of mineral oil and two pumps inside.the pumps were steel on steel and milled so close they didnt need rubber gaskets.it reminded me of a rotary engine with the piston being an eccentric cam in a chamber.i shoved the pump in a bucket of water and turned the pump by hand and it shot a stream of water about 40 ft. far and 15 ft high.the cool part was that i only turned the pump a fraction of an inch and even felt force pushing against me as it squirted.the thing was locked solid by next morning and wouldnt turn at all.thing is, i got two pumps and only cut open one compressor and it was not easy.oh! and most units now have mostly aluminum coils but still worth money because the fins are aluminum as well.we sold about 20 compressors and they paid us more than their weight in scrap steel.

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[*] posted on 1-10-2015 at 08:43


Al is worth about 180% more than Iron/Steel when scrapped, weight for weight.




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[*] posted on 1-10-2015 at 11:28


Quote: Originally posted by aga  

(personally i'd tear it apart just to see what is in there, then get bored and leave the bits lying all over the place)


This is me exactly. Honestly for me the fun of taking it apart and finding useful stuff is worth more than the money.
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[*] posted on 1-10-2015 at 11:33


Eventually the $ become really important, and tends to spoil the fun.

Heigh Ho. That's life for you.




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