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Quote: Originally posted by Zombie ![](images/xpblue/lastpost.gif) |
It's the c squared that is the issue.
If light slows down under pressure, then it no longer is a constant, and is useless to formulate from.
There has to be a NEW constant.
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No, it's not. c IS a constant: it's the speed of light in vacuum. Light slows down (a bit) even when it travels through glass, that's
why glass (and water etc etc) refracts light. But the value of c is constant and immutable. The speed of light itself does vary according to
conditions, the speed of light in vacuum is an absolute.
E = mc<sup>2</sup> merely reflects the amount of energy an amount of stationary mass contains.
The 'revolutionary' aspect of this formula is that a stationary object of mass m still contains energy, to the tune of E = mc<sup>2</sup>.
In Newtonian physics such a body would NOT contain energy (unless potential).
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The Strange Fate of a Person Falling into chemical forum.
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But its not a chemical forum. This is the sub-forum of 'Fundamentals' titled 'Miscellaneous' on a site titled 'Science Madness'. I think most agree
science covers far more than chemistry alone. Otherwise why is the site not titled 'Chemical Madness'?
"Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts" Richard Feynman
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I should have stayed on PBS Kids... dot org.
jello is always a popular topic.
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What kind of jello ?
Strawberry ?
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The physics of jelly is quite interesting, in fact. Custard even more so. A non-Newtonian liquid... Jesus almost certainly walked on custard, not
water. Of course He was related to the Great Houdini, no question about that! (it says so in 'The Da Vinci Code'!)
Einstein's First Derivation of the formula E = mc<sup>2</sup> is A-level math, basically:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass%E2%80%93energy_equivalence...
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https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/einstein-did-not-deriv...
http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/www/
http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/specrel/www/
http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/uspat1781541/www/
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Quote: Originally posted by blogfast25 ![](images/xpblue/lastpost.gif) | ... Jesus almost certainly walked on custard, not water. Of course He was related to the Great Houdini, no question about that! (it says so in 'The Da
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How verily darest thou ?
Must have been Holy Custard at least.
Jihaaaaaaad.
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You never had Blue Custard? Lots of Blue Curacao.
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Cherry Jello no fruit. I hate the kind with fruit in it. Does that mean I'm normal or not?
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Quote: Originally posted by IrC ![](images/xpblue/lastpost.gif) | Cherry Jello no fruit. I hate the kind with fruit in it. Does that mean I'm normal or not?
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Consult your shrink and keep it 'scientific'...
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begging the question.
First off, is there any other flavor than strawberry? If there is they suck.
That's an interesting Wiki on those that question Einstein. I wonder why anyone would doubt him? Common sense maybe?
I doesn't sound right. Don't ask me why because I have no idea yet.
It's the light thing. We actually don't even understand light. (see dark sucker).
Taking protons, and electrons as orbitals is incorrect, and taking them as waves similar to light is wrong because they do not emit light.
EME (electro magnetic energy) is closer to the nature of them I believe. So this means that the nucleolus is emitting the force that keeps them in
place along with their own balancing force.
You can't compare this to light, or gravity but you can compare this to a static magnetic field.
What if you changed E=mc2 to E=mt2 (magnetic torque) or E=mmm2 (magnetic moment) or E-mb2 (magnetic field strength).
Magnetic force is always constant whether under vacuum or not, and sounds much more applicable to the equation. It will take a predictable amount of
energy to create movement, and will provide a universally static equation.
Besides the expected answer of "REALLY!" is there anything wrong with the idea?
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When you talk about Jesus you should keep in mind that Harold is watching.
Our father who art in heaven, Harold be thine name...
Blue custard,. REALLY?
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Quote: Originally posted by Zombie ![](images/xpblue/lastpost.gif) |
What if you changed E=mc2 to E=mt2 (magnetic torque) or E=mmm2 (magnetic moment) or E-mb2 (magnetic field strength).
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The latter three are dimensionally inconsistent. Like "apples<sup>3</sup> = pears<sup>2</sup>". HERESY ALERT!!! The Spanish Inquisition is Coming for You:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tym0MObFpTI
Blue custard, it's delish! The Apostles knew that and you don't? ![:(](./images/smilies/sad.gif)
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All I know about English deserts is to stay away from anyone that offers you "spotted dick".
I guess that comes w/ blue custard?
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Yeah but with the variant that's prepared with Gorgonzola or Danish Blue. An initiation rite of passage invented by the Freemasons, apparently... ![:cool:](./images/smilies/cool.gif)
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β<sup>-</sup> ('beta minus') decay: a neutron emits an electron (and an anti-neutrino) and gets transformed into a proton:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beta_decay
Imagine the 'inverse' taking place when atoms are 'crushed' at 'near-infinite' pressure. A neutron star is born!
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I have to read up on that.
That is sort of the way I am trying to learn all of this... Take what is known, and logical, and reverse it. I assume the math has to work the same,
as long as it follows logic.
I'm prone to but not much of a believer in making up things to fit a situation. Like inventing new numbers to explain a problem... Discovering new
numbers is another bowl of jello all-together.
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Hey guys,
What a coincidence.
The fella looking to make a giga amp battery had a reply on this...
"Philipp Kronberg of the University of Toronto in Canada and colleagues measured the alignment of radio waves around a galaxy called 3C303, which has
a giant jet of matter shooting from its core. They saw a sudden change in the waves' alignment coinciding with the jet. "This is an unambiguous
signature of a current," says Kronberg.
The team thinks magnetic fields from a colossal black hole at the galaxy's core are generating the current, which is powerful enough to light up the
jet and drive it through interstellar gases out to a distance of about 150,000 light years (arxiv.org/abs/1106.1397)."
I said in here somewhere that this phenomenon HAD to occur, and I asked if it was ever observed. Well now it has been.
I know what it implies to me but I would like to know what it implies to you.
http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21028174.900-universes...
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Who do you think I am? A cosmologist? ![;)](./images/smilies/wink.gif)
Seriously though, you'd have to go back to the source text and raw data to get a better idea of what it all means.
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As a simple minded guy it shows the simple law of action/reaction. Everything that goes in, HAS to come out.
Just in romantic theory, this is the emission of collected energy. A "Big Bang". Which side of the BH is it coming from? The side that took it in? or
another side... The drain?
If we had a model of a compressed atom it would be easier to explain what happened, and why/where by comparing the signatures of the emissions to this
model.
I mean I am a simplistic as it gets but it only makes sense if you follow the basic rule of K.I.S.S.
I believe they have captured the first ever known end or overflow of a BH.
Everything has to have a maximum energy limit, and I think that was what they saw. Static electricity as it were. Lightning in space.
What do you think the chances are that a shockwave from this discharge will effect our solar system in the future?
Without learning the numbers, and doing the math... I'd have to say the chances are 100%
Going back into theoretical minimum, there is a point in space where that shock wave will be so dispersed as to no longer be a cohesive force. Are we
at or beyond that point?
I wonder if anyone else alive has asked this question?
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Quote: Originally posted by Zombie ![](images/xpblue/lastpost.gif) |
What do you think the chances are that a shockwave from this discharge will effect our solar system in the future?
Without learning the numbers, and doing the math... I'd have to say the chances are 100%
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A shockwave requires an elastic medium (gas, liquid or solid) to propagate in. Inter-galactic space is pretty empty (vacuum). In space no one
can hear you scream...
Any electromagnetic effects are likely to be attenuated enormously by the ginormous distances between Galaxy 3C303 and our solar system. There are far
more energetic mass-events in our universe, like supernovae, that have no measurable effects on our solar system.
This:
https://hologramuniverse.wordpress.com/2011/06/25/galaxy-3c3...
... provides a bit more readable info on the 3C303 event.
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I'm going to read that tonight. I would have thought a super nova would be a pimple on a BH's arse.
Granted what ever happened there (3C303) was light years ago but we have the opportunity to follow this in real time.
I also wonder if Hawking has had anything to say on this, and I do wish I knew more about what his take on this was Pre- event ie: could this
happen...
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started reading it, and it sounds like all the word soup I have been spitting out. Intergalactic lightning. All of this electromagnetic mumbo jumbo
sounds about the same as what I have been saying as well. I wish I really understood.
Funny, I thought I was the BH arch rival. According to Hawking this anomaly is.
I think I am really going to pursue the compression of an atom. Just to see if I can.
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Quote: Originally posted by Zombie ![](images/xpblue/lastpost.gif) |
Granted what ever happened there (3C303) was light years ago but we have the opportunity to follow this in real time. |
OXYMORON ALERT LIBELZ BENGAZI!!!!!!!!!11!! ![:D](./images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
May the force be with you!
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Build a high gain phased array tuned to 20.1 MHZ and point it at Jupiter while doing frequency shifting of the detected signal. I can swear what I
have heard from that gas monster sounded an awful lot like screaming. Or maybe it was the Dalek leader I'm not really sure.
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Nah, that was just your signal bouncing off the monolith...
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