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Poll: What is YOUR level of education??
Well, together with this thread, we might get some meaningful answers ![:)](./images/smilies/smile.gif)
Obviously, if you are currently doing a degree, then you are eligible for poll item 2, or if you are doing a masters, then 3, and so on ![:)](./images/smilies/smile.gif)
Nobel prize winners please come forth! ![:D](./images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
[Edited on 31-3-2005 by chemoleo]
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I'm a senior in high school, and next year I will be attending Northeastern University (or possibly syracuse, but neu offered me a scholarship,
and boston is a much more interesting town). I am going to major in chemical engineering, but i might switch depending on how i like it, can anyone
here offer some suggestions/comments on college majors?
PS: It was amazing to vist the chemical engineering department "Over here we have the scanning electron microscope" I was In the next room a man was growing carbon nanotubles under an atmosphere of argon,
then I think about my HS lab and that we lack basic acids/glassware.
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I'm a chem undergraduate at the moment.
Speaking of levels of education (tenuous link...)
Whilst I am very tolerant of people who don't know a lot of chemistry, I'm constantly surprised by questions like "how do I calculate
mass from density and volume?" and comments such as "I thought anything that is a liquid had to have water in it." ![:o](./images/smilies/shocked.gif)
I kid ye not.
Or am I wrong to be surprised other undergrads don't know these sorts of things? I can't say for sure given my hobby learning angle on chem
since before I can remember, but I would have thought a few basic facts would be known by this level! (Not rant - just a bit of observation!)
[Edited on 3/30/2005 by Dave Angel]
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I'm in school now (last year). I aspire to become a chemist or maybe even a chemical engineer.
I guess I could say that I have a school-level of education, but my understanding of chemistry extends past our schools watered-down curriculum. ![:D](./images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
[Edited on 30-3-2005 by cyclonite4]
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Quote: | Originally posted by Dave Angel
Whilst I am very tolerant of people who don't know a lot of chemistry, I'm constantly surprised by questions like "how do I calculate
mass from density and volume?" and comments such as "I thought anything that is a liquid had to have water in it." ![:o](./images/smilies/shocked.gif)
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That's pretty scary. I wouldn't let them touch any of my chemicals or let them near my glassware for that matter
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I voted the last option because I "officially" graduated "HS" last year and am going to college this fall... I use quotes because
I "was" homeschooled (anyone who also was knows why I again use quotes). Like cyclonite4, I know a bit more about (electronics and
metallurgy in my case) than the average HS graduate. ![;)](./images/smilies/wink.gif)
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Pursing a degree in chemical enginnering was going for biochemistry but I want to get paid as soon as I get out of school. Texas A&M
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Although it has been many years since I obtained my BS (Ch. E.) from a public university in the US I have kept an active interest in the field even
when my job didn't require it. I have taken refresher chemistry courses now and then which helped in my career and in my hobby.
I feel that this forum is just one of a set of valuable tools for continuing to learn about and enjoy chemistry. Anyone who participates in this
forum will have a "leg up" on his peers.
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Why the "americanized" list of choices?
All that glitters isn't gold.
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...same as cyclonite4
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Quote: | Originally posted by Eliteforum
Why the "americanized" list of choices? |
Might as well fit in with the trend, ey? ![:P](./images/smilies/tongue.gif)
The whole worlds doing it, why can't one person?
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The whole world is certainly not doing it. In europe we only recently adapted the bachelor/masters system.
I guess undergraduate = bachelor?
I found it surprising though that as we're being adapted to the US system, chemistry bachelor is being extended to three years instead of two and
the material is easier.
McDonaldization I guess?
One shouldn't accept or resort to the mutilation of science to appease the mentally impaired.
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I was referring to 'americanization' in general, not only the education system.
...Or you could call it McDonaldization .
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Eliteforum, I don't understand why the list is americanised (note the spelling... 's', not 'z' ). I actually deliberately tried to make it not sound americanised - note, I
don't call it 'high school' or something.
Most countries have school , most countries have universities to do a degree (at
least in dev. world).
It's the same system they use in the UK, or Germany. Admittedly, Masters degrees (postgrad) seems to be more of a moneymaker than a genuine
degree as it draws so many foreign overseas student at english universities -
and it's prevalent mainly in the US/UK - i.e. in Germany they haven't picked up on it yet (Postgraduate degrees are usually short, normally
1 years, 2 years at the most. Normally PhDs are included in this).
Vulture - yah, undergraduate is simply a university degree that takes from 3-5 years or so. Whereby this degree leads to a diploma in germany,
baccalaureat in France, or a 'graduation' in England/US (?)
Anyway, are there any poll items that should be included but were left out?
Oh, hangon, I don't think I can edit the original poll...
[Edited on 30-3-2005 by chemoleo]
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Physics Professor
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I have something like a MA in psychology and sociology. ![:o](./images/smilies/shocked.gif)
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I remember long ago attending Berkeley ....Theoretical Math,....and Family Practice Medicine at Stanford.....in a far away land.......solo
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Quote: | Originally posted by Organikum
I have something like a MA in psychology and sociology. ![:o](./images/smilies/shocked.gif)
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For the females I guess?
I'm an archaeologist.
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Academic corruption being what it is these days, and big business at that, there are many places from which you can virtually buy degrees - and often
get away with it. Sometimes they ask you to provide a thesis, or an account of your life work experience. In particular, in California, the degree
vendors -"diploma mills" if you like - operate quite legally, because any organization styled as a "non-profit organization"
there, with an endowment of $50,000 or more, can legally call itself a "university" and register as such, and award degrees.
The only limitation on what you do with such degrees is that you cannot apply to join a "protected" professional society, or obtain a
license to practice a "protected" profession, like law, medicine, dentistry, medical laboratory technology and other medical and dental
auxiliaries, pharmacy, psychology, optometry, chiropractic, or nursing, on the basis of such a degree. These professional societies have their own
lists of which universities they consider to be accredited or acceptable; in the case of law, a state bar examination or similar has also to be
passed. But just about all other occupations are "fair game" with such degrees, except that one cannot call oneself "certified" or
"chartered" or "registered", e.g. if working on one's own account as a chemist, engineer, or accountant.
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How come you know all this? What's your degree again?
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For the females I guess?
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Not only. MA = Magister Artis
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Honours in Chem.
[Edited on 28-3-2009 by Ramiel]
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I'm aiming for the same thing, for I love chemistry. Unfortunately, poor results in a less-scientifically-relevent area means I have to take a
longer path to get my aspired Bachelors degree (I have to get a related diploma first).
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Undergrad Chem Engineering, (physics is a fucking nightmare!!!).
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Physics at my uni was a walk in the park compared to quantummechanics, so brace yourself.
One shouldn't accept or resort to the mutilation of science to appease the mentally impaired.
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