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[*] posted on 7-4-2015 at 14:06
List of chemicals available in Brick-and-mortar hardware/pool/automobile/pharmacy/grocery stores (IN PROGRESS)


If you have seen anything else, suggest it here
These are not necessarily in pure form, you may have to distill them out.

Acetaminophen: Tylenol

Acetic acid 20%: Plant stores, nurseries, can be concentrated into near-glacial acetic acid after reacting to sodium acetate and then H2SO4 with that

Acetone: Crown's Acetone (says it on the front) hardware stores, also in nail polish remover but not sure about purity

Acetylsalicylic acid: Aspirin (pharmacy)

Ammonium nitrate: Cold packs (pharmacies)

Bismuth Salicylate: Pepto bismol (pharmacy)

Butane: Comes in a spray bottle I believe, and is liquid when injected into ziplock bag

Caffeine: Can be separated from excedrin with acid-base extraction, unless there are common sources of pure caffeine

Calcium Hypochlorite: Powder bleach, buckets (pool store, hardware store)

Copper sulfate pentahydrate: Zep root killer (hardware store)

Dichloromethane: Can be distilled from paint removers (hardware store)

Diethyl ether: Can be distilled from starter fluid

Ethanol 95%: Everclear, pharmacies

Ethylene glycol: Antifreeze (automobile store)

Glycerol: Pharmacies, says on the bottle

Heptane: Can be distilled from starter fluid

Hydrochloric acid 31.45%: Muriatic acid (hardware store)

Ibuprofen: Advil

Isopropyl alcohol 91%: Rubbing alcohol

Methanol: Wood's alcohol or HEET antifreeze (automobile store)

Methylethylketone: Crown's MEK (says it on the front) hardware store

Oxalic acid: at paint stores for bleaching wood

Potassium chloride: Sodium free salt (No-salt) grocery stores

Potassium nitrate: Stump remover

Potassium Permanganate: Water filter in hardware stores (only in some areas)

Propane: Propane tanks

Propylene glycol: Antifreeze (automobile stores)

Sodium bicarbonate: Baking soda

Sodium bromide: Bromine spa tablets (pool stores)

Sodium chloride: Table salt

Sodium hydroxide: Drain cleaners (hardware stores)

Sodium hypochlorite 8.25%: Bleach

Sodium metabisulfite: Stump remover

Sodium nitrite: Ace hardware store, for curing fish

Sulfamic acid: Home depot tile cleaner

Sulfur: Flowers of, in pharmacies, and fertilizers

Sulfuric acid 93%: Drain openers (hardware stores, may have buffers in it)

Toluene: Some paint thinners, Crown's toluene (hardware store)

Trichloroisocyanuric acid: Pool chlorine tablets (pool store, hardware store)

Xylene: Crown's Xylene (says it on the front) hardware store



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[*] posted on 7-4-2015 at 14:27


There is always the classic Readily Available Chemicals website:

http://www.hyperdeath.co.uk/chemicals/

And of course the Household Products Database:

http://householdproducts.nlm.nih.gov/ingredients.htm




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[*] posted on 7-4-2015 at 14:52


Quote: Originally posted by BromicAcid  
There is always the classic Readily Available Chemicals website:

http://www.hyperdeath.co.uk/chemicals/


Yes, but a lot of those are from photography/pottery/paint shops, which cannot be found in brick-and-mortar form here in texas.
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[*] posted on 7-4-2015 at 15:06


Shops generally sell NaCl as well, and KCl to flog to the lo-sodium folks.

In fact, the Shop is full of chemicals !

It's also made of chemicals, as are you, me and the shopkeeper.

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[*] posted on 7-4-2015 at 15:13


CuSO4 pentahydrate (hardware store)
sulfamic acid (Home Depot)
NaNO2 (Ace Hardware in the fishing section)
KMnO4 (as water treatment in some areas, not mine)
oxalic acid (at paint stores for bleaching wood)
sulfur (flowers of, at pharmacy)

I could likely go on and on .....

Do you have a pottery supplies store locally ? They are a cornucopia of inorganic chemicals.





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[*] posted on 7-4-2015 at 15:25


Quote: Originally posted by Magpie  

Do you have a pottery supplies store locally ? They are a cornucopia of inorganic chemicals.


None that I know of in DFW area, texas.

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[*] posted on 7-4-2015 at 15:34


I kind of doubt that.

http://www.texasclay.org/page-714151

http://trinityceramic.com/ceramic-chemicals

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[*] posted on 7-4-2015 at 16:59


So, uh... Cou.

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[*] posted on 7-4-2015 at 20:17


Potassium Nitrate and Sodium Metabisulfite are both sold as stump remover.

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[*] posted on 8-4-2015 at 00:34


Sodium carbonate: Washing soda, grocery store

Cyanuric chloride: Pool supply





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[*] posted on 8-4-2015 at 02:19


Cyanuric chloride definitely is not a OTC chemical. You probably mean TCCA, Tri Chloro Cyanuric Acid.

TCCA : C3N3Cl3O3
cyanuric chloride: C3N3Cl3

The latter is a chemical which better can be placed in the class of chemicals like thionyl chloride, phosphorus pentachloride, benzoyl chloride, oxalyl chloride and so on. Not the stuff you usually encounter in a home lab, and certainly not in a hardware store. It is a very reactive chlorinating agent, which replaces hydroxyl groups by chlorine atoms (e.g. converts CH3OH to CH3Cl, CH3COOH to CH3COCl). This cannot be done by TCCA. TCCA is an oxidizing chlorinator.




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[*] posted on 8-4-2015 at 06:43


You can find N-heptane in craft stores as adhesive solvent. Comes in handy for recystalizations.

Also all the sulfuric acid I found as drain openers had buffers. It was still active as an acid but unusable for reactions.




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[*] posted on 8-4-2015 at 13:01


Quote: Originally posted by szuko03  
You can find N-heptane in craft stores as adhesive solvent. Comes in handy for recystalizations.

Also all the sulfuric acid I found as drain openers had buffers. It was still active as an acid but unusable for reactions.
Heating the H2SO4 from drain opener would deactivate the buffers, right?
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I don't think heating would deactivate the buffers. I suppose it depends on what they are. Distillation is clearly a tad difficult for many due to the boiling point, but would be my first recommendation. I have seen people on other forums claim adding an oxidizer such as hydrogen peroxide (forming piranha) helps eliminate buffers... but I don't know how scientific that is. Organics and dyes, yes. Buffers? I never bothered to check. Only dye is mentioned here: http://www.sciencemadness.org/talk/viewthread.php?tid=3722

Amusingly, way back in the day, I remember a few individuals elewhere trying to "prove" the safety of sulfuric and nitric acids, and the fearmongering of chemists, by dipping limbs into it and nitrating fingers and such. I remember one moron was quite full of himself as an "expert" yet clearly didn't know what a buffer was. They tend to be harsh on your pipes without them!
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[*] posted on 8-4-2015 at 14:24


What are these "buffers" for H2SO4 that I keep hearing about? I don't think Rooto drain cleaner has any such buffers. It seems pure, with a slight orange discoloration, and has been satisfactory "as is" for all my home chemistry. Is there anywhere in the US where Rooto is unavailable?

How can a strong acid be buffered without turning it into something else? It's like "if salt has lost its savor, what can be salted"? Can anyone please show me an equation showing an additive "buffering" H2SO4?




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[*] posted on 8-4-2015 at 14:36


Quote: Originally posted by Magpie  
What are these "buffers" for H2SO4 that I keep hearing about? I don't think Rooto drain cleaner has any such buffers. It seems pure, with a slight orange discoloration, and has been satisfactory "as is" for all my home chemistry. Is there anywhere in the US where Rooto is unavailable?

How can a strong acid be buffered without turning it into something else? It's like "if salt has lost its savor, what can be salted"? Can anyone please show me an equation showing an additive "buffering" H2SO4?


The Rooto in VA is very nice with a slight discoloration.

Sodium Bisulfate : pool supply/hardware store (Ace)
Caclium Chloride : pool supply/hardware store (Ace)
Ethanol, denatured : hardware store
Sulfur : hardware store (Ace; plant supplies)
Cyanuric Acid : pool supply/hardware store (Ace)

* Cyanuric Acid is where everyone gets confused. This confusion seems to keep popping up on this forum. Cyanuric Chloride (chlorine is on the carbon) vs Cyanuric Acid (oxygen is double bonded to the carbon with hydrogen on the nitrogen)
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[*] posted on 8-4-2015 at 18:14


Sodium Metabisulfite from home brew beer stores. Not sure what other chems they have.
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[*] posted on 8-4-2015 at 19:29


Hey, uh I'm pretty confused about this post, but if its just things available for any old soul in a supermarket / hardware store, sure.

N - Butanol, sold as paint remover for little models.

With a little work, Lithium from Lithium Ion batteries.

Sodium Dichloroisocyanurate as water purifier.

Iodine from Potassium Iodide tincture (KI in EtOH/ H2O ).

Sodium Tetraborate as Borax.

Sodium Bisulfite is also sold for fishtanks to control pH.

Phosphoric Acid as 'Acid drain cleaner'.

Magnesium Sulfate Heptahydrate as Epsom salts.
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[*] posted on 8-4-2015 at 20:42


Don't forget your neighborhood health food store:

nicotinic acid (niacin)
activated charcoal
33% H2O2
D-glucose (dextrose)

naphthalene (moth balls) - Ace

pharmacy:
glycerol

Grocery store:
sodium dithionite (RIT dye)

Liquor store in selected states :D
95% ethanol




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[*] posted on 8-4-2015 at 20:54


Quote: Originally posted by Magpie  
How can a strong acid be buffered without turning it into something else? It's like "if salt has lost its savor, what can be salted"? Can anyone please show me an equation showing an additive "buffering" H2SO4?


Good question. Might be worth finding an MSDS or picking up a bottle to see what it says on the label:
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Liquid-Lightning-Buffered-Sulfuric...

I will go buy something similar tomorrow and report back if no one has some nearby.

I never really gave it much thought. Clearly stomach mucus has bicarbonate and protein mediated buffering abilities, though it hardens somewhat on the stomach to form a protective barrier, though this hardly seems applicable here.
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[*] posted on 9-4-2015 at 03:54


This link is in the sticky at the top of this section.

http://www.hyperdeath.co.uk/chemicals/suppliers.php
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[*] posted on 9-4-2015 at 07:04


The rite aid by my house has boric acid ill have to see why. I remember seeing it when I was younger and thinking i could make green fire, this was many years ago.



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