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Organic Chemistry Online
As many of you probably know, I know very little about organic chemistry. I don't have any way to learn it through conventional routes, so do any
members know of any free online places to learn organic chemistry? I of course don't expect to find full length college-level courses so a
basic introduction would be ok. I am mainly interested in trying to make up my own procedures for syntheses. And before anyone comments, I have used
the forum search engine and searched google and the results aren't really that useful to me. Thank you in advance.
[Edited on 4/4/14 by thesmug]
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coursera.com has full length college level chemistry without the lab component. Some colleges such as MIT also have course material on-line.
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Thank you very much, macckone!
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I recommend getting a textbook. Daley and Daley is a free online/PDF book. The hardest part for me would have been reading it on my own without some
prompting and answering of questions. Once you read that, you might consider a book on retro synthetic analysis.
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Remember, organic chemistry is best learned with a pencil in your hand.
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Quote: Originally posted by Chemosynthesis | I recommend getting a textbook. Daley and Daley is a free online/PDF book. The hardest part for me would have been reading it on my own without some
prompting and answering of questions. Once you read that, you might consider a book on retro synthetic analysis. |
Do you know of anywhere where Q&A for this book might be found?
[EDIT] It says you need to order the textbook...
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Quote: Originally posted by thesmug |
Do you know of anywhere where Q&A for this book might be found?
[EDIT] It says you need to order the textbook... |
Register and it's a free download. They also have videos.
http://www.ochem4free.info/node/1
The authors ask that you do not distribute the book, but it should be completely accessible. I downloaded it years ago to compare with Clayden,
March, etc. Seemed fine.
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http://www.khanacademy.org/science/organic-chemistry
http://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/
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Anyone have any experience with their paid service? Is the, at the moment $49.95, worth the expenditure?
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Quote: Originally posted by thesmug | As many of you probably know, I know very little about organic chemistry. I don't have any way to learn it through conventional routes, so do any
members know of any free online places to learn organic chemistry? I of course don't expect to find full length college-level courses so a
basic introduction would be ok. I am mainly interested in trying to make up my own procedures for syntheses. And before anyone comments, I have used
the forum search engine and searched google and the results aren't really that useful to me. Thank you in advance.
[Edited on 4/4/14 by thesmug] |
The problem with online material is that it often lacks the same quality control and proof-reading that a printed book has. If you learn someone's
incorrect idea of a concept as though it were 'fact', then it could lead to misunderstandings and difficulties in your later study when you come to
apply that 'knowledge'. Most online material comes from books anyway, so I think that it is better to get your information straight from there, which
will also force you to learn it in a structured and logical way. Online material is no substitute for a well written textbook, especially if you hope
to have a thorough understanding of the material, rather than a collection of vague and disconnected understandings.
This is the best general organic chemistry book that I am aware of: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Organic-Chemistry-Jonathan-Clayden/d... and it is more than sufficient for a very good knowledge of the foundations of
organic chemistry to graduate-level. In fact it is the book that I used almost exclusively at university. You will have no trouble specializing in any
area of organic chemistry once you have learned the basics of mechanism and so on described in this book.
For practical laboratory techniques a very good, broad, and easily readable book is: http://www.amazon.com/The-Organic-Chem-Survival-Manual/dp/11...
If you decide to pursue organic chemistry as a student or professionally, I would highly recommend that you also study the theory of separation and
analysis, for which this http://www.amazon.co.uk/Chemical-Separations-Principles-Tech... gives an excellent overview of the whole area, as well as sufficient depth to make
the knowledge practically useful even at research level.
Those 3 books cover the entirety of most synthetic chemistry, from planning the desired reaction itself; to carrying-out, separating and analyzing
your products. The textbook by Clayden is definitely worth buying for a start, I would suggest, even if it only serves as an unread general reference
book on organic chemistry.
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They also don't seem to have contact information on their website. That makes me leery.
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Buy a used text-book. Sit down and do a chapter a week. Answer every problem in the book. That's how I learned it because my professor did not
lecture.
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