Captain Howdy
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5-meo-mipt stereoisomers, isomers and salts
Hi, can I have a trivial question as I am unable to get a relevant answer anywhere else.
Can anyone tell me please if 5-meo-mipt
(5-methoxy-N-methyl-N-(1-methylethyl)-1H-Indole-3-ethanamine, C15H22N15O) is an
isomer/stereoisomer or a salt of any one of these chemicals:
* DET (Diethyltryptamine, C14H20N2)
* DMT (Dimethyltryptamine, C12H16N2)
* Etryptamine (alfa-Ethyltryptamine, C12H16N2).
I am not a chemist but I did my homework and if I understand correctly, 5-meo-mipt is not an isomer of any of these three chemicals, as its formula
and moll.mass is different.
But is it a salt of any of them please?
Many thanks.
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These are four different molecules. Only alpha-ET shows stereoisomerism. None of them are salts. This kind of question goes into the "beginning"
section.
Attention with the word "isomer": In some (legal) texts this word is used with a different meaning. Therefore always specify which kind of isomerism
you are talking about.
[Edited on 9-3-2014 by turd]
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Hi turd. Many thanks for your help. I understand your point, but in this particular case, "isomer" is a chemical notion, not legal. May I ask you one
more thing, if you say that only alfa-ethryptamine shows stereoisomerism, does that mean that there is a partial stereoisomerism between 5-meo-mipt
and alfa-ET? Thank you.
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No, it means that alpha-ET exists as two stereomers, which are *not* diastereomers, because they are the mirror image of each other and therefore have
the same physical properties (but different biological properties, since biological systems are generally likewise chiral).
None of the two alpha-ET stereomers is a stereomer of 5-MeO-MiPT. Indeed, 5-MeO-MiPT as well as the other molecules you listed do not have
stereoisomers.
Isomerism has a multitude of meanings also in chemistry, therefore it is always necessary to say which isomerism you are talking about. They are
detailed on Wikipedia, so I recommend you go and read that.
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http://www.erowid.org/library/books_online/tihkal/tihkal40.s...
Regular isomers generally have obvious structural variations, from one isomer to another.
Propyl Alcohol.....CH3CH2CH2-OH Vs. Iso-Propyl Alcohol.....CH3CH(OH)CH3
Stereo-isomers......generally speaking, contain areas that are non-super-imposable mirror images of each other. Usually due to the presence of an
asymmetric carbon atom. That is... a carbon atom that has 4 differing functional groups attached to it.
Moxy, as it is called, is not an isomer of any of the your above mentioned tryptamines. But, since you have presented your question in very
legalistic language, it isn't exactly legal, none-the less. Some LE agencies MIGHT considered it an ANALOG to materials that are not legal to
possess.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5-MeO-MiPT
[Edited on 19-3-2014 by zed]
[Edited on 19-3-2014 by zed]
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